# The Tragedy of a Small Vocabulary \<or\> Redundancy in New Zealand

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2001, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673 "2001-10-31T06:21:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/41 "2001-11-03T21:27:52Z")

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You guys are so-o-o-o-o-o lucky I couldn’t care less about sports. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/42 "2001-11-03T21:46:47Z")

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What this? One of my threads, involved in a _sports hijack?!_ This will not stand! So, in hopes of getting things back on track, I offer up this line from a supposed movie critic, as qouted in the commercial for John Travolta’s new movie:

“John Travolta plays a good-guy hero.”

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![G.Nome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@G.Nome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.Nome)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/43 "2001-11-04T10:14:39Z")

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It’s like this Miller: The people of the Land of the Long Beige Cloud are really spoiled. I mean spoiled as in over-indulged. The country is the size of Britain or Japan but there are only 4 million people in it. The winter is the equivalent of a northern hemisphere spring, there are no crowds, no lines, no long commutes. You’d be surprised at the standard of living a university graduate with a good job can have here. Most of the time people don’t realise how lucky they are and how much they have. Having two of everything when everyone else in the world barely has one is quite natural to them. They’ll use two words when one will do, have two jobs when some people can’t get one, own two cars, two dogs, two televisions. Yet if there’s one identifying trait the people of this country possess I’d say it was jealousy. Strange but true.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/44 "2001-11-04T11:26:00Z")

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And the above is a commentary from not-quite-of-this-world.  
If you have two of everything, **G.Nome** – I think that’s cause for havin’ the next big party at _your_ place.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/45 "2001-11-04T11:39:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> **Good. That’ll help our balance of payments deficit. Buy the rings, people! Buy the rings!**

Sheesh, mate, you want to help the balance of payments, export more Steinlager.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/46 "2001-11-04T11:45:13Z")

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Thanks for the tip, I’ll inform the brewery.

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**Author:** ![G.Nome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@G.Nome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.Nome)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/47 "2001-11-05T00:48:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> \*\*And the above is a commentary from not-quite-of-this-world.  
> If you have two of everything, **G.Nome** – I think that’s cause for havin’ the next big party at _your_ place. \*\*

Your bad cough will keep you at home, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/48 "2001-11-05T03:43:59Z")

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Nah, it’s all cleared up now. How’s the chip?

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**Author:** ![Redboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@Redboss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redboss)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/49 "2001-11-05T04:30:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> \*_Actually, keeping in the spirit of things, you should buy **two** One Rings._ \*\*

No, you should buy five. For use on December 29th.

[sub]think about it[/sub]

Redlords a-leaping

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/50 "2001-11-05T05:16:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by G. Nome \*  
> **The people of the Land of the Long Beige Cloud are really spoiled.**

Hey! It’s _White_… well, pretty much everywhere… sometimes it’s not so white in Auckland…

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> **there are… no long commutes.**

You don’t live in Auckland… 🙂

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> **Most of the time people don’t realise how lucky they are and how much they have.**

Seconded! 🙂 There’s that dratted redundancy again.

But for redundant place names I don’t think you can do better than the Brits… and I humbly offer **Torpenhow** by way of example. Each syllable means “hill” in one language or another, thus hill-hill-hill.

\<aside\> On All Blacks – and certainly without wanting any sports hijack… one of my co-workers was accosted and somewhat harrassed in a US gym, for the **All Blacks** cap she was wearing… somebody took exception to it and accused her of being racist. :rolleyes: Wonder what they would have said if it’d been the soccer teams cap? Errr… that’d be the _All Whites_. 🙂

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/51 "2001-11-05T05:41:58Z")

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Nyah, Nyah - you Kiwis think you’re all so cool. But ObL hasn’t declared a _jihad_ on you guys yet, has he? Nah, not even in duplicate he hasn’t. 😛  
[sub]all non-Tasman people please ignore these posts - we’re just putting light-hearted shit on our neighbours[/sub]

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**Author:** ![G.Nome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@G.Nome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.Nome)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/52 "2001-11-05T06:17:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> \*\*Actually, keeping in the spirit of things, you should buy **two** One Rings. \*\*

If you want to be followed around by a lot of short guys with funny names and big hairy feet, go ahead.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/53 "2001-11-05T07:02:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by reprise \*  
> \*\*Nyah, Nyah - you Kiwis think you’re all so cool. But ObL hasn’t declared a _jihad_ on you guys yet, has he? Nah, not even in duplicate he hasn’t. 😛  
> [sub]all non-Tasman people please ignore these posts - we’re just putting light-hearted shit on our neighbours[/sub] \*\*

Hey, **Reprise** … :p[sup]10[/sup]

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**Author:** ![puk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ea5d25/32.png) [@puk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puk)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/54 "2001-11-05T10:53:16Z")

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> [sub]all non-Tasman people please ignore these posts - we’re just putting **light-hearted shit** on our neighbours[/sub]

… Band Name!

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/55 "2001-11-05T11:23:44Z")

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So I guess that yet another one of those imported hroses is going to win the Cup tomorrow?

[sub]why do all of our best horses and most of our best men come from NZ?[/sub]

Oops, did I say that aloud???

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/56 "2001-11-05T18:18:20Z")

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😃

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tragedy-of-a-small-vocabulary-or-redundancy-in-new-zealand/90673/57 "2001-11-06T07:46:29Z")

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Hey, **Reprise …**

We won not just _one_ cup, but [two](http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sports/sportsstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=226937&thesection=sport&thesubsection=racing&thesecondsubsection=general)!

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