# The trial of Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos)\[sentenced to 11+ yrs, 18Nov2022\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 10, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138 "2021-07-10T04:42:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/793 "2025-02-12T18:43:09Z")
> [@Holmes](#): > > “…it’s been hell and torture to be here.” We need details. No maid service? New tennis balls issued only weekly? Domestic _foie gras_ instead of imported? Her adoring public needs to be made aware of the depths of her anguish. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/794 "2025-02-12T18:49:52Z")
It’s exactly the same though process that was tweeted by a Jan 6 “patriot” (how big can a /S be? Not big enough), Jennifer Ryan, who tweeted: > “Definitely not going to jail. Sorry I have blonde hair white skin a great job a great future and I’m not going to jail. Sorry to rain on your hater parade. I did nothing wrong.” And sadly, things are moving in the direction of proving this sort of thing to be correct. Fundamentally, jail is ONLY for people of color and/or the poor. DJT and his enablers (read the whole Republican party) have always had this as a subtext, but now it’s a rallying cry. Justice is for everyone else, it’s some form of retribution if it’s targeted at _them_. Holmes had been playing the same damn card the whole time, just wasn’t as good at it and didn’t have powerful and wealthy enablers to the same degree. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/795 "2025-02-12T19:04:49Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Holmes had been playing the same damn card the whole time, just wasn’t as good at it and didn’t have powerful and wealthy enablers to the same degree. Her problem was that she ripped off the powerful and wealthy. If he scam targeted primarily poor people she’d be fine. That said, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he commutes her sentence. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/796 "2025-02-12T19:09:01Z")
_Very_ slight disagree - she didn’t have the backers, and she made people who had _real_ wealth and authority _look bad_ - IE the big investors. So yes, just as you said, if she had only ripped off the poor and weak, there would have been dramatically fewer consequences, but they _also_ used her to prove that “The system works!”. They (MAGA / Republicans / Plutocrats) have largely abandoned even that fig leaf these days. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/797 "2025-02-12T19:09:20Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > It’s exactly the same though process that was tweeted by a Jan 6 “patriot” (how big can a /S be? Not big enough), Jennifer Ryan, who tweeted: > > > “Definitely not going to jail. Sorry I have blonde hair white skin a great job a great future and I’m not going to jail. Sorry to rain on your hater parade. I did nothing wrong.” > > And sadly, things are moving in the direction of proving this sort of thing to be correct… Although, as it happens, she _did_ go to jail: > **[Frisco realtor Jenna Ryan released from prison after serving Capitol riot...](https://www.fox4news.com/news/frisco-realtor-jenna-ryan-released-from-prison-after-serving-capitol-riot-sentence)** > > Frisco real estate agent Jenna Ryan, who pleaded guilty for participating in the January 6 Capitol riot, got out of a federal prison on Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/798 "2025-02-12T19:24:09Z")
Wasn’t Dick Cheney one of the prominent people that Elizabeth Holmes manipulated to help her find wealthy investors? If that’s correct (I swear that was in the book I read, but a cursory Google search is not confirming it), for sure Trump will want to pardon her. She’s perfect for a position in his cabinet, and it’s a thumb in the eye of the Cheneys. A twofer! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/799 "2025-02-12T19:27:24Z")
I don’t believe Dick Cheney was ever involved. You may be thinking of George Shultz. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/800 "2025-02-12T19:49:18Z")
Not only was George Shultz one of her major investors (and promoter for other investment) but one of the main whistleblowers was his grandson, Tyler Shultz, whom George allegedly pressured to retract his claims. Trump can’t make any money off of Holmes and while pardoning her would be outrageous, it wouldn’t really be seen as a ‘owning the libtards’ move. Unless, of course, Ms. Holmes starts making arm signals and talking about her theorems of neo-eugenics… Stranger ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/801 "2025-02-12T19:53:14Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > You may be thinking of George Shultz. I bet that was it, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/802 "2025-02-12T19:55:08Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > …while pardoning her would be outrageous, it wouldn’t really be seen as a ‘owning the libtards’ move. He could certainly use it to stoke racial strife - “look what they did to this pretty white woman while illegal immigrants run free.” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/803 "2025-02-12T21:10:55Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Trump can’t make any money off of Holmes and while pardoning her would be outrageous, it wouldn’t really be seen as a ‘owning the libtards’ move. [not really a hijack] He couldn’t make any money off of Rod Blagojevich, but he commuted his sentence in term 1 THEN pardoned him in term 2. I think his only criteria is that the person pledges their everlasting fealty and kisses the ring. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/804 "2025-02-12T22:10:19Z")
And pays a certain number of bitcoin to a certain account #. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/805 "2025-02-12T22:20:18Z")
Bitcoin? I expect that gifts would be expected to be provided in TRUMP coins. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/806 "2025-02-14T17:52:27Z")
@Elendil_s_Heir you misspelled a word. Let me see if I can help: Boo fucking hoo! ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/807 "2025-02-14T21:36:08Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > [Elizabeth Holmes says federal prison stay has 'been hell and torture'](https://www.aol.com/elizabeth-holmes-says-federal-prison-155220742.html) Lots of **“I, me, me, I, I and I”** here ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/808 "2025-02-14T21:48:47Z")
Reminds me of the critic who said that Theodore Roosevelt’s memoir of the Spanish-American War should have been titled _Alone in Cuba_. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/809 "2025-02-24T20:40:55Z")
Holmes’ latest appeal has been denied by a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit. She can still attempt to get the entire court to hear it or try for SCOTUS, but it’s not looking good. Or to put it another way, it’s looking _very_ good. > **[Theranos fraudster Elizabeth Holmes loses her appeal](https://www.siliconvalley.com/2025/02/24/theranos-fraudster-elizabeth-holmes-loses-her-appeal/)** > > Holmes, 40, a Stanford University dropout, was charged in 2018 in connection with $878 million in losses among investors in her startup Theranos. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/810 "2025-02-25T00:15:55Z")
Hahahahaha Plus: > **[Elizabeth Holmes Breaks Her Silence in First Interview from Prison: 'It’s...](https://people.com/elizabeth-holmes-breaks-her-silence-in-first-interview-from-prison-it-s-been-hell-and-torture-exclusive-8789737)** > > In a Candid, Exclusive Interview, the Former Theranos CEO and Convicted Felon, Shares Her Life Behind Bars and Quest for Freedom in PEOPLE's Cover Story. (Exclusive) > Her daily routine includes a workout, largely vegan meals, teaching French to other inmates and working on her campaign to reform the criminal justice system ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/811 "2025-02-25T00:39:43Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > …and working on her campaign to reform the criminal justice system. She’s developing a machine called “Holmes” which takes a drop of the defendant’s blood and determines guilt in court without all the mess of hearings, jury selection and voir dire, testimony, and deliberations. She’s already used it successfully to demonstrate her own innocence. Now seeking seed investment; get in on the ground floor of a “don’t miss” startup led by the (formerly) youngest CEO of a billion dollar SiVal startup who was featured in _Forbes_, _Inc_, and _The Wall Street Journal_. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/812 "2025-02-25T01:28:43Z")
I see what you tied together there. Outstanding! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138.md?page=39)