# The trial of Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos)\[sentenced to 11+ yrs, 18Nov2022\]

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**Created:** [July 10, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138 "2021-07-10T04:42:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/683 "2023-05-30T22:34:08Z")

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> [@Plea Bargaining: Spun off from the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plea-bargaining-spun-off-from-the-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-discussion/985061/3):
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> > [@Plea Bargaining: Spun off from the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plea-bargaining-spun-off-from-the-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-discussion/985061/3):
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> > > [@Plea Bargaining: Spun off from the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plea-bargaining-spun-off-from-the-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-discussion/985061/3):
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> > > the kinds of exceptionally long sentences the US courts love to hand out
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> > For the most part, the courts are following the sentence directives provided by the people’s representatives in Congress and state-houses. &nbsp;
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> Is that supposed to be an explanation? Lawmakers and/or their constituents favour such guidelines because of a prevalent tough-on-crime mentality. It’s part of the American zeitgeist, perhaps rooted in primitive frontier tradition.

IMO @Northern_Piper’s point was that it is not a matter of trial court discretion. Which your phraseology appeared to suggest it was. This is not a case of “hanging judges”.

Instead it’s a case of “hanging legislatures”. Which, yes, is part and parcel of the religious retributionist moralist frontier mindset so romanticized by some factions of the US public.

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