The trial of Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos)[sentenced to 11+ yrs, 18Nov2022]

Like this maybe?

So, she saddled her daughter with that name and now will disappear for 11 years. Nice.

My thought as well. She had better hurry it up.

She can go by Vickie.

Maybe the kid was really named after the ugly-ass Buick Invicta.

Fun fact: the 1960 Buick Invicta (same year as the pictured model) featured in The French Connection. A huge stash of heroin was found hidden in the car’s rocker panels.

Don’t be ridiculous. Obviously I mean this.

The Wall St. Journal has a story on Holmes being due to report to Federal Prison Camp Bryan (TX) on Tuesday.

It notes that the camp library has a copy of “Bad Blood”, which has been checked out.

“Some people are like ‘I want to be her friend,’” said Tasha Wade, a current inmate who was convicted last year of defrauding a former boss to take vacations and pay for cosmetic and dental procedures. “But other people are like, ‘I can’t believe that’s all she got for taking all that money,’” Wade said.”

“Inmates also said some guards took a special interest in higher-profile inmates. One, for instance, recalled a corrections officer joking with colleagues that she looked forward to ordering Holmes to scrub pans.”

It’s understandable that some inmates would want to be Holmes’ friend. She could steer them towards attractive investment opportunities.

The Wall Street Journal says she has to report by 2pm today, so she has probably just arrived. It also reports there’s a copy of the book Bad Blood in the prison library.

More:

She got there a couple hours ago. There have been a few pictures of here arrival posted.

This pic of her “reporting to prison” looks like she’s about to go camping. It’s a minimum-security facility where life probably won’t be too rough, not that I really begrudge her that. She perpetrated a major but non-violent crime and just deserves to be put away from society for a good long while.

She will be making between 12 and 40 cents per hour in her prison job…so she’s still in the money. She’ll have that $25-million debt paid off in no time.

It’s a Federal charge so she will serve most of her sentence unless she manages a pardon. It’s not nearly as bad as a maximum security place but she’ll be getting up at 6am and living a very regulated life and will, at least at first, have a job cleaning up after others and taking orders in the kitchen. She won’t be able to see her kids much and even then it will be brief and monitored. It won’t be pleasant.

Especially not for an entitled wacko.

I have heard that even in minimum security prison, you’re going to get smacked it you do something like take cuts in the food line or show disrespect or at the very least you’ll get frozen out. You’re going to want friends or time will pass very slow.

56 posts were split to a new topic: Plea Bargaining: Spun off from the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos discussion

For the most part, the courts are following the sentence directives provided by the people’s representatives in Congress and state-houses.

Is that supposed to be an explanation? Lawmakers and/or their constituents favour such guidelines because of a prevalent tough-on-crime mentality. It’s part of the American zeitgeist, perhaps rooted in primitive frontier tradition.

IMO @Northern_Piper’s point was that it is not a matter of trial court discretion. Which your phraseology appeared to suggest it was. This is not a case of “hanging judges”.

Instead it’s a case of “hanging legislatures”. Which, yes, is part and parcel of the religious retributionist moralist frontier mindset so romanticized by some factions of the US public.

Only for very narrow definitions of violence. I mean, tell someone who lost their life savings to a scam and now cannot afford necessary medical care that they are the victim of a non-violent crime. Granted, here, since she was only convicted of scamming wealthy investors, there is an added degree of separation between her and the subsequent violence of her schemes.

But on the other hand, there are the people who actually relied upon her blood tests and got erroneous results that either (a) put them in unnecessary apprehension of great bodily harm before they figured out the positive result was in error or (b) deprived them of the opportunity to get potentially life saving care sooner by giving them false negatives. Was she convicted of any such crime? No. But since you said perpetrated, I think it fits.

In short, she has done far more in the way of real harm to people than a run of the mill bank robber, perhaps even a murderer.

No, because that only works for the duration of the sentence. The most important consideration is, in fact, what happens after release, unless you’re talking about a no-parole lifer, and few criminals are in that category, hopefully only the truly incorrigible. The important consideration is whether you’ll be releasing a rehabilitated individual or an embittered sociopathic criminal acclimatized to prison life and the criminal element. The US justice system has a pretty poor record on recidivism compared to others.

It’s kinda interesting to see how someone went from this:

…to this…

I once read “The lower classes everywhere always rejoice to see someone despoil and discomfit their betters, even when it gains them nothing at all.”