# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 106
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2111 "2020-08-09T05:02:41Z")
I’m sure Pelosi already has scathing rebutals, verbal and legal in the works, for what it may be worth. I"m sure McTurtle is prepared to do nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2112 "2020-08-09T05:03:20Z")
KFC delivers thigh. And I’m sure that Trump knows that. However, I’m also sure that he only orders white meat. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2113 "2020-08-09T05:04:23Z")
That explains it, when he feels like eating something exotic, he goes to Thighland. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2114 "2020-08-09T05:15:22Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m not at all happy with the way the media is treating this. Any mention of the fact that Trump cannot do this is buried at the bottom of the story, if it’s mentioned at all. And the headlines just say “he did it”, as if there’s no question about it. It’s a typical Trump move. He says he’s doing something and gets the good publicity for it. But then he doesn’t follow through on actually doing what he said and that doesn’t make the headlines. He used to promise large donations to charities and then not give them the money. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2115 "2020-08-09T05:25:27Z")
Never believe what he says he’ll do for you. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2116 "2020-08-09T05:58:50Z")
I wouldn’t believe him if he swore he was lying. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2117 "2020-08-09T06:00:40Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I wouldn’t believe him if he swore he was lying. Mind. Blown. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2118 "2020-08-09T08:14:18Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > I’ve seen at least a couple of conservative commentators already tugging at their collars about this on Twitter; if Trump establishes this as a precedent, they’re panicking over what a future Democratic President might try. If Trump has his way they won’t ever have to worry about a President of any party other than theirs. In fact, they won’t have to worry about any other President than Trump in his lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2119 "2020-08-09T12:50:30Z")
Also I don’t buy this idea of Trump establishing a precedent that Dems will then successfully emulate. The Dems are too soft, and MAGAs have no sense of principles or consistency. IOKIYAR – It’s OK **iff** you’re a republican (iff = “if and only if”) The GOP will accuse the Dems of hypocrisy to disguise their own “You guys were up in arms when Trump did this, now you’re fine with a Democrat doing it!?”, and the Dems will blink. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2120 "2020-08-09T14:40:04Z")
Here’s a bit of optimistic news… > **[A president ignored: Trump’s outlandish claims increasingly met with a...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-ignored/2020/08/08/01aacfa6-d76f-11ea-9c3b-dfc394c03988_story.html)** > > More than 3½ years into his presidency, Trump often finds himself minimized, as many of his outrageous or groundless statements are briefly considered and then, just as quickly, dismissed. > Shortly after a deadly explosion in Beirut this week, President Trump offered a theory — backed by no apparent evidence — that the devastating incident was “a terrible attack,” claiming “some of our great generals” thought it was likely the result of “a bomb of some kind.” > > Such a bold proclamation from a U.S. president would usually set off worldwide alarms. Yet aside from some initial concern among Lebanese officials, Trump’s assertions were largely met with a collective global shrug. > > More than 3½ years into his presidency, Trump increasingly finds himself minimized and ignored — as many of his more outlandish or false statements are briefly considered and then, just as quickly, dismissed. The slide into partial irrelevance **could make it even more difficult for Trump as he seeks reelection** as the nation’s leader amid a pandemic and economic collapse. > … My bold. YES!! Let him go out not with a bang but a whimper… as long as he **goes**! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2121 "2020-08-09T15:28:12Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > How exactly does Trump’s just-signed executive order extending unemployment benefits have any force behind it at all? He’s given up on Führer and going for Pharoah. “So let it be written, let it be done.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2122 "2020-08-09T15:46:19Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Never believe what he says he’ll do for you. He’ll do it in two weeks. Or around that time. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2123 "2020-08-09T16:24:33Z")
Two weeks from tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2124 "2020-08-09T17:12:58Z")
I shall gladly grant you a boon in two weeks, for complete authority today. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2125 "2020-08-09T17:16:06Z")
Is this like the [marshmallow test](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment)? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2126 "2020-08-09T18:05:33Z")
They’re worried that millions of voters will be just fine with a president signing an executive order that amounts to a transfer payment. They’re not necessarily worried that President Biden would just start printing money and rule by fiat. What they’re really worried about is that millions and millions of unemployed and/or broke Americans will expect the government to have a role in digging the country out of poverty - that’s what they’re afraid of. Mitch McConnell was somewhat successful in blocking Obama’s most ambitious plans because the country recovered from the recession thanks to early intervention from the federal government. Republicans worry that if President Biden takes office with 10-15% unemployment, he and Dems will propose massive expansion of the treasury…and that Americans will be highly receptive to it. They have good reason to worry. People become a lot less philosophically opposed to ‘handouts’ when they’re the ones about to lose the roofs over their heads. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2127 "2020-08-09T18:27:06Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Two weeks from tomorrow. If you give me the price of a hamberder today, I shall surely repay you in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2128 "2020-08-09T18:34:33Z")
Well, well, well…. looky here. > ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2129 "2020-08-09T18:48:20Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@The worst Orange ever](#): > > > > Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit Because that’s MY job!! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2130 "2020-08-09T19:11:11Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > > Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit > > Because that’s MY job!! “And I’ll do it bigger and better than he or anyone ever dreamed possible!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=105) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=107)