# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2171 "2020-08-10T22:59:13Z")
Just posted now: > **[Secret Service escorts Trump from briefing room after shooting outside White...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secret-service-escorts-trump-briefing-room-amid-shooting/story?id=72293741)** > > President Donald Trump was rushed out of the White House briefing room Monday and later said the Secret Service shot someone outside the White House. Here’s key quote from Trump: > [@](#): > > After he came back in, Trump said he was taken into the Oval Office by the Secret Service, and told reporters that law enforcement had shot someone outside the White House. > > “There was a shooting, law enforcement shot someone, seems to be someone, and the suspect is on the way to the hospital,” Trump said as the briefing restarted after the sudden, but brief, lockdown. Ready for the money quote? > [@](#): > > “It’s unfortunate that this is the world but the world has always been a dangerous place. It’s not something that’s unique,” he added. In other words: “it is what it is”. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2172 "2020-08-10T23:33:41Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > I’m a New Zealander, so am somewhat parochial - > but these sorts of actions have to be doing incalculable damage to the reputation and standing of the US. Same view, but closer, from Canada. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2173 "2020-08-10T23:45:36Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Good God, we can not vote this man out soon enough… I just hope we can vote him out **at all.** ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2174 "2020-08-11T00:38:46Z")
All he ever cared about, was lining his pockets, feeding his ego, and doing the bidding of Russia. Because they kept and still keep his “real estate business” afloat through money laundering and bribery. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2175 "2020-08-11T02:11:32Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > “That pandemic in 1917–it probably hurried up the end of the Second World War, because all the soldiers were sick.” To think that Dan Quayle was mercilessly ridiculed because he spelled _potato_ wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2176 "2020-08-11T02:19:51Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Not sure if this is the correct thread, but I’ll put this message here anyway. > > I’m watching Trump’s press conference. He just took a question about travel to Europe. He went on a bit about how pro athletes have to travel to play, said that the US was working with Europe, and other blather. Then he came out with this (paraphrased): > > “That pandemic in 1917–it probably hurried up the end of the Second World War, because all the soldiers were sick.” > > Time for a history lesson, Mr. Trump. You were very close to the actual quote. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-erroneously-says-1918-spanish-flu-probably-ended-wwii-which-happened-two-decades-later/ar-BB17NSNP?li=BBnbcA1](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-erroneously-says-1918-spanish-flu-probably-ended-wwii-which-happened-two-decades-later/ar-BB17NSNP?li=BBnbcA1) > [@Donald Trump](#): > > The closest thing is in 1917, they say, the great pandemic. It certainly was a terrible thing where they lost anywhere from 50 to 100 million people, probably ended the Second World War. All the soldiers were sick. That was a terrible situation. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2177 "2020-08-11T02:21:16Z")
If Quayle had done that today, all Republicans would be spelling it _potatoe._ ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2178 "2020-08-11T02:22:28Z")
USA Victory Tuber\* \*tubere ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2179 "2020-08-11T02:32:17Z")
When I first read that quote, my thought was: “You moron, the Spanish Flu was 1918-1919, and had little if any effect on the end of WWI.” And then after further reading: “Wait, he said WW _Two_?!??” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2180 "2020-08-11T02:40:38Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > When I first read that quote, my thought was: “You moron, the Spanish Flu was 1918-1919, and had little if any effect on the end of WWI.” > > And then after further reading: “Wait, he said WW _Two_?!??” - All those wars look alike. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2181 "2020-08-11T02:45:42Z")
Beautiful wars… > **[Trump describes two world wars as ‘beautiful’ in Fox News interview](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-world-wars-beautiful-confederate-base-names-fox-news-interview-a9628001.html)** > > President says Confederate flag isn’t necessarily racist because ‘people right now like the South’ ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2182 "2020-08-11T02:50:33Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > When I first read that quote, my thought was: “You moron, the Spanish Flu was 1918-1919, and had little if any effect on the end of WWI.” That’s maybe a slight overstatement. It was responsible for a considerable number of casualties (~1/3 IIRC). That surely had an impact, even if that effect was accelerating or delaying the end of hostilities a few months, even if it wasn’t enough to end the war by itself. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2183 "2020-08-11T02:51:52Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > “That pandemic in 1917–it probably hurried up the end of the Second World War, because all the soldiers were sick.” > > Time for a history lesson, Mr. Trump. Republicans trying to prove he was telling the truth in 3 … 2… 1 … . ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2184 "2020-08-11T04:00:07Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Republicans trying to prove he was telling the truth in 3 … 2… 1 … . Where’s Dinesh D’Souza when you need him? ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2185 "2020-08-11T04:13:44Z")
I’m waiting for Dinesh to point out that what we call World War I was actually called ‘World War Two’ for many years, all over the world. Of course, it’s a lie, but so was the ‘Thighland’ thing, and it follows the cultist rules of making yourself look like an idiot so that the precious leader’s idiocy gets sidelined. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2186 "2020-08-11T04:43:04Z")
Somewhere in the White House, a low paid staffer is pulling out the box of sharpies again. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2187 "2020-08-11T07:02:19Z")
> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > And I know just where the flea can bite him. He has two of them… Can fleas really bite people in the brain cell? ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2188 "2020-08-11T07:51:51Z")
All those sick soldiers in 1917 meant there were fewer children being born. So a couple of decades later there were fewer sons following their fathers into the military.So less soldiers for WWII and it ended sooner as a result! I do not endorse this idea or Trump in any way. I just wanted to play along! ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2189 "2020-08-11T07:58:18Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I check this pretty religiously too. I suspect ass kids go back to school, and covid spikes as a result, and kids and teachers die, and parents struggle with doing school and working, and people start watching summer go bye-bye with no end to this economic and pandemic mess in sight, and people actually start paying real attention to the news after their summer distractions are over… things will begin to look more grim I suspect. > > Trump’s hovering at 41-42%. That’s his base, plus maybe a few low-info airheads who only get their info about how things are going for their family from their daily stock report and/or morning drive-time DJs. I suspect he’ll begin to dip into the 30s come September. I disagreed with this at first but now I think you are right. Kids are going back to school and getting infected (hundreds in Georgia alone) and Trump tweets that college football season should go on even though the commisioners of the big conferences are starting to question it, and he will continue to tweet until the end that things are going back to normal, and even a certain small percentage of his idiots will see that it is not true. He will continue until election day believing that somehow a great economy will come back and COVID will go away. Hell, it is fucking mid-August already, how time flies In the Time of COVID. I can’t believe it, it seems like a month ago I got the notification from my company that we would be working from home, that was in the first of March. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2190 "2020-08-11T10:09:42Z")
My history teacher always said that the 7-years war was the first World War, so there is is your rationale… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=108) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=110)