# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 128
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2554 "2020-08-19T18:09:58Z")
I guess it’s okay to have cancel culture if it’s a Republican doing it. Individual 1 is calling for a boycott of Goodyear Tire because they said their employees cannot wear MAGA hats. I guess the 35,000 Goodyear employees in Ohio will be voting for him even if they lose their jobs. [Trump calls for Goodyear boycott after company bans MAGA attire among employees - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/trump-goodyear-boycott-maga-attire-ban-398469)? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2555 "2020-08-19T18:11:47Z")
White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said that Individual 1 is the first President to ever go after a terrorist and take him out. I guess Osama Bin Laden wasn’t a terrorist. > **[WH Chief Mark Meadows Forgets Osama Bin Laden, Claims Trump First POTUS Who...](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/wh-chief-mark-meadows-forgets-osama-bin-laden-claims-trump-first-potus-who-went-after-a-terrorist-and-took-him-out/)** > > Meadows decided to rewrite history on Wednesday by claiming Trump is "the only president" who ever took out a terrorist enemy of America. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2556 "2020-08-19T18:13:23Z")
Donnie Junior appeared in a series of promotional images for Desert Tech guns, a company owned by a member of a polygamous cult whose company is fighting against federal attempts to take over the company due to charges of fraud. > **[Donald Trump Jr. appeared in promotion for gun company run by prominent...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-jr-desert-tech-riles-promotion-nicholas-young-the-order-polygamous-group-utah/)** > > The government is trying to seize Desert Tech's headquarters, originally purchased by members of the sect who entered guilty pleas in a $1.1 billion fraud scheme. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2557 "2020-08-19T18:19:56Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Donnie Junior appeared in a series of promotional images for Desert Tech guns, a company owned by a member of a polygamous cult whose company is fighting against federal attempts to take over the company due to charges of fraud. Trump supporters: “Who cares what his son does? We aren’t voting for his son!” Me: “So, that applies to Hunter Biden, too, yes?” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2558 "2020-08-19T18:27:21Z")
Plus, just to be clear: he didn’t move the Israeli capital: he moved the American embassy. Not the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2559 "2020-08-19T19:05:09Z")
Now, I’m imagining the CFSG pulling up in a UHaul and personally helping Israel move their capital. Not that his bloated corpus could handle any amount of heavy lifting without collapsing. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2560 "2020-08-19T19:07:04Z")
I could see him arranging for the old one to burn down under mysterious circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2561 "2020-08-19T19:14:19Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Now, I’m imagining the CFSG pulling up in a UHaul and personally helping Israel move their capital. Not that his bloated corpus could handle any amount of heavy lifting without collapsing. Not a chance. He only pretends to drive bigly, manly trucks with horns he can blow. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2562 "2020-08-19T19:23:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Not a chance. He only pretends to drive bigly, manly trucks with horns he can blow. If that’s what he’s into. If I had to do the same I’d pick something more like [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/1958_Corsair_Daten.jpg) instead. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2563 "2020-08-19T19:37:39Z")
Are zionist Kumquat supporters called Orange Jews? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2564 "2020-08-19T20:36:23Z")
The U.S. Postal Service enacted a rule this summer banning its clerks from signing mail-in ballots. [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/usps-quietly-added-rule-prohibiting-workers-from-signing-mail-in-ballots-as-witnesses](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/usps-quietly-added-rule-prohibiting-workers-from-signing-mail-in-ballots-as-witnesses) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2565 "2020-08-19T22:19:26Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > And there’s some denial of reality - they claim he’s playing up to the bigots but isn’t personally a bigot. Bigotry is as Trump does. Why is it so hard to understand that what someone says and does reflects what they are? > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > I doubt anything short of being rounded up for the camps would do for them. Hell, Trump is currently rounding up people for camps now. Of course it’s only the “right people rounded up” so those morons applaud it. And, yes, that’s because those applauding are bigots. > [@Broomstick](#): > > The one business-man friend I’ve discussed this with at all excuses Trump’s bankruptcies as “real estate is like that” A casino is only partly real estate. That’s not what drove it into bankruptcy. > [@Broomstick](#): > > I don’t get the doubts about the sincerity of her conversion. Since 2009 when she officially converted to Modern Orthodox Judaism she has kept the Sabbath, observed a kosher diet, married in an Orthodox Jewish ceremony sent her children to Hebrew school,and otherwise has comported herself as a Jewish person. Under Jewish law she is as Jewish as any other Jew. I’m not sure why her father would doubt her conversion. Pretty sure they’re both Jewish Trumpists, and The Orange One regards Jared as a “good one” because anyone who backs Trump is a “good one” in Trump’s view. I’m going by what I’ve seen personally from people I’ve known who’ve converted. Their families tend to think that it’s not a real conversion but was done as a cover to get some of that Jewish sheen for business or professional development–to benefit from the stereotype. > [@Broomstick](#): > > I can’t figure out black people who are pro-Trump or immigrants who are pro-Trump either, although I’ve met a few of each of those categories. I worked with one Mexican-American guy who is still a Trump supporter. Yeah, he’s a moron about other things, too. > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > It may help that Trump’s anti-semitism is non-standard. > > He believes all the stereotypes of Jews being greedy and manipulative with dual loyalty to Israel, but unlike the standard anti-semites he believes that these are admirable qualities. Unlike his actions/ rhetoric towards Blacks and Hispanics, I don’t recall any actions of his that were actively discriminatory against Jews. > > His support of the white power movement might fit the bill, but I suspect that he considers that to me more of a movement against Blacks and Hispanics, since Jews look white. I’d love to see his reaction if he were ever to meet Beta Israel Jews, Bene Israel Jews, or Kaifeng Jews. > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Shortly after the 2016 election, there was an editorial in the Chicago Tribune with the title “I am a female Muslim immigrant, and I voted for Trump.” Her reasoning was that Clinton and the existing Washington power system was too close to the House of Saud, and that her election would only bring more of their abuses. Wonder how she thinks now… She must not have realized it was going to be Trump who would be doing those abuses. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I guess it’s okay to have cancel culture if it’s a Republican doing it. > Individual 1 is calling for a boycott of Goodyear Tire because they said their employees cannot wear MAGA hats. > I guess the 35,000 Goodyear employees in Ohio will be voting for him even if they lose their jobs. > [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/trump-goodyear-boycott-maga-attire-ban-398469](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/trump-goodyear-boycott-maga-attire-ban-398469)? Is this the first time a sitting president has called for a boycott of an American company? It strikes me as unpresidential. Buty, hey, what about the current administration isn’t? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said that Individual 1 is the first President to ever go after a terrorist and take him out. > I guess Osama Bin Laden wasn’t a terrorist. I’m fully expecting to see something agreeing with that nonsense from at least one of my trumpeter relatives when I check my FB page in a while. > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Donnie Junior appeared in a series of promotional images for Desert Tech guns, a company owned by a member of a polygamous cult whose company is fighting against federal attempts to take over the company due to charges of fraud. Fraud? Got to stick with what you know, I guess. > [@eschereal](#): > > Are zionist Kumquat supporters called Orange Jews? 🤣 > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The U.S. Postal Service enacted a rule this summer banning its clerks from signing mail-in ballots. WTF? The next thing you know, that kumquat clown is going to ban postal money orders and every other service the post office provides. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2566 "2020-08-19T22:36:26Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > I don’t get the doubts about the sincerity of her conversion. Since 2009 when she officially converted to Modern Orthodox Judaism she has kept the Sabbath, observed a kosher diet, married in an Orthodox Jewish ceremony sent her children to Hebrew school,and otherwise has comported herself as a Jewish person. Under Jewish law she is as Jewish as any other Jew. I’m not sure why her father would doubt her conversion. Pretty sure they’re both Jewish Trumpists, and The Orange One regards Jared as a “good one” because anyone who backs Trump is a “good one” in Trump’s view. > > I’m going by what I’ve seen personally from people I’ve known who’ve converted. Their families tend to think that it’s not a real conversion but was done as a cover to get some of that Jewish sheen for business or professional development–to benefit from the stereotype. Yeah, my mom was a convert (although she may not have gone all the way through it). Her family said she was going to hell and gave her dire warnings about how “THOSE people get divorced!” Dad’s family thought he was going to commit suicide to get out of a marriage to a _shiksa._ Mom and dad were married 60 years - a lot of those predicting doom got divorced themselves despite being “good Catholics”. Dad outlived all those people who were predicting doom for him. Meanwhile, my Jewish relatives told me I was gentile, my gentile relatives said I was Jewish. I am… _somewhat_… familiar with conversion and family doubt. > [@Monty](#): > > > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > > > I doubt anything short of being rounded up for the camps would do for them. > > Hell, Trump is currently rounding up people for camps now. Of course it’s only the “right people rounded up” so those morons applaud it. And, yes, that’s because those applauding are bigots. Yes, that is a big problem right now - people refusing to see we’re on the road to hell because it’s not affecting THEM in a bad way. Niemöller is no doubt rolling over in his grave. > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > It may help that Trump’s anti-semitism is non-standard. > > He believes all the stereotypes of Jews being greedy and manipulative with dual loyalty to Israel, but unlike the standard anti-semites he believes that these are admirable qualities I do believe you have hit a nail on the head there. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2567 "2020-08-19T22:39:36Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Is this the first time a sitting president has called for a boycott of an American company? It strikes me as unpresidential. Buty, hey, what about the current administration isn’t? - [The Daily Beast](https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-long-list-of-things-president-trump-wants-to-boycott-from-oreos-to-goodyear-tires-and-apple-products) It’s a long article. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2568 "2020-08-19T22:44:53Z")
In other words… Trump wants a centralized economy dictated by either a small committee or even just one man? I expect he’ll call that “capitalism” shortly after decreeing we’ve been wrong all along and the sun actually rises in the west and sets in the east. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2569 "2020-08-19T22:59:59Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I can’t figure out black people who are pro-Trump or immigrants who are pro-Trump either, although I’ve met a few of each of those categories. The gay trump supporters and republicans are the ones that really boggle my mind. You belong to an organization that actively wants gay people dead! And somehow you think that doesn’t apply to you personally? “I never thought when I joined the face eating weasel club that they would actually eat _my_ face.” ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2570 "2020-08-19T23:02:11Z")
How much did the author of the article love writing this line?: > Macy’s once carried Trump’s clothing line but cut ties in 2015. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2571 "2020-08-19T23:05:04Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > n other words… Trump wants a centralized economy dictated by either a small committee or even just one man? > > I expect he’ll call that “capitalism” shortly after decreeing we’ve been wrong all along and the sun actually rises in the west and sets in the east. My students here in China have actually said to me: > My father is a good communist. He’s rich. Different side, same coin, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2572 "2020-08-19T23:06:15Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > “I never thought when I joined the face eating weasel club that they would actually eat _my_ face.” [Leopards.](https://twitter.com/Cavalorn/status/654934442549620736) That one-liner is awesome and I think Adrian Bott deserves credit every time it gets used. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2573 "2020-08-19T23:22:50Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I expect he’ll call that “capitalism” shortly after decreeing we’ve been wrong all along and the sun actually rises in the west and sets in the east. Shit. I thought the sun was shining out of his ass. #learnsomethingeveryday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=127) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=129)