# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/244 "2020-06-26T22:35:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > If my understanding is correct, your post doesn’t make sense. Your understanding is correct, my post doesn’t make sense (unless you use Trumpian logic). 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/245 "2020-06-26T22:54:49Z")
👍 😋 ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/246 "2020-06-26T23:30:31Z")
You may be right ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/247 "2020-06-26T23:33:18Z")
I may be crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/248 "2020-06-26T23:39:48Z")
I’m sorry but this is not the lunatic I was looking for. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/249 "2020-06-26T23:45:15Z")
Yeah, that’s always a possibility. But just apply Occam’s Razor and you’ll see that it’s the world around you that’s gone crazy 😉. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/250 "2020-06-26T23:49:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@enipla](#): > > > > Because of the way Trump words these idiotic thoughts, I suspect that some of his fans are stupid enough to believe that getting tested may make one sick > > I am pretty confident that Trump himself believes this. He keeps saying that testing causes cases of covid. I really do think he believes that if we stop testing then the disease will vanish. Maybe they should stop testing him. That actually brings up a question. If he thinks testing will infect someone, is he really being tested? (Shit, I hate that “these times” have made me even consider indulging in conspiracy crap.) Maybe his handlers think that if everyone around him is tested, he will be safe. He might not even know that they really are being tested. He could just believe everyone is saying that for PR purposes. Hard to say what he really means when he says no testing, no cases because no one ever, ever, ever calls him out or asks him or anyone around him for clarification on that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/251 "2020-06-26T23:49:24Z")
It’s been said over and over and over again…but is this the thing that finally brings him down (at least election-wise). I mean, if there is one thing Trumpites love more than Trump, it is ‘our military.’ And if it can be shown that Trump has known about this for _Months_…and done _Nothing_…I mean, that has got to cause some reaction, doesn’t it? Yeah, I know, it’ll be lied about and obfuscated and buried under the next outrageous tweet…but I have to think even the most conservative military folks have got to wondering about this… Press on. I don’t have the energy/will to do more right now. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/252 "2020-06-27T00:16:56Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > … I mean, if there is one thing Trumpites love more than Trump, it is ‘our military.’ … Well, they do not literally love our military, they just love the idea of it. The individual humans in the military, they can go fuck themselves (especially if they fail to duly die on schedule). ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/253 "2020-06-27T00:40:05Z")
There is no way Trump wins the election without stealing it, and the way it’s going he will lost NC and maybe FL and OH. I would never have thought TX, but the way things are going there now, who knows. Yes, I know last time everyone said he could not win, but a lot of people who voted for him thought they were getting the Apprentice guy. And last time he was making arguments, however wrong they may have been, using complete sentences. I don’t see what could possibly happen that could cause his popularity to go back up, assuming he doesn’t cure COVID by himself. There is not going to be an economic miracle. > **[New Polling Shows Trump’s Electoral College Advantage Is Slipping](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/new-polling-shows-trumps-electoral-college-advantage-is-slipping/)** > > A new batch of polls released by The New York Times Upshot/Siena College this morning has caused a stir as they gave former Vice President Joe Biden leads rangi… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/254 "2020-06-27T00:43:09Z")
File this under Same Old - Same Old… > **[Trump To Nominate Anti-Environment Extremist As Permanent Public Lands Chief](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-william-perry-pendley-bureau-land-management_n_5e02645de4b0843d3601dd79)** > > William Perry Pendley says his personal views and past actions are “irrelevant” when it comes to leading an agency that manages more than one-third of all federal land. > [@](#): > > [President Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) will formally nominated William Perry Pendley, a self-proclaimed “sagebrush rebel” with extreme anti-environmental views and a long history of advocating for the sale of federal lands in the West, to serve as director of the Bureau of Land Management. > … > > “President Trump is doubling down on his record as the most [anti-nature president](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/analysis-trump-public-lands-rollbacks_n_5ec59af1c5b6df8b159bf287) in U.S. history,” Kate Kelly, public lands director at the left-leaning Center for American Progress, said in a statement Friday. “The nomination of William Perry Pendley sends a clear signal that Trump plans to move ahead with a radical, sweeping, and unpopular sell-off of America’s public lands.” > … > > Along with extreme views on federal land policy, Pendley detests the Endangered Species Act, once writing the conservation law seeks “[to kill or prevent anybody from making a living on federal land](https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/04/bundy-ranch-standoff-could-spark-new-sagebrush-rebellion-william-perry-pendley/).” He has sued the federal government numerous times in the last three decades, railed often against environmental “terrorists” and “eco-fascists,” and [compared](https://twitter.com/Sagebrush_Rebel/status/1093031500524617729) the climate crisis to a “unicorn” because “neither exists.” ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/255 "2020-06-27T01:13:11Z")
Of course Trump is anti nature. Do you believe Trump has ever slept in a tent, in the woods, or walked barefoot in grass or experienced nature in any way? No, his experience with nature is to plow it up and build something for rich people on it. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/256 "2020-06-27T01:19:59Z")
Do you mean that he LIED about [being the outdoor type](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WoxO5Nw0e0)? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/257 "2020-06-27T03:50:07Z")
This is a good article about how Trump is dealing with the virus, attempting to understand why he is so callous about the pain and suffering it is causing. And, of course, it comes down to winners and losers. > **[Trump believes anyone who dies from Covid-19 is a 'loser'](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/25/1955974/-Trump-believes-anyone-who-dies-from-Covid-19-is-a-loser?utm_campaign=trending)** > > When I first read “Vector-In-Chief,” Fintan O’Toole’s piece in last month’s New York Review of Books, I just filed it away for future reference, another in a long line of works that attempts to plumb the bottomless depths of what may casually be... > [@](#): > > In _How to Get Rich_ , Trump links his own germaphobia to the idea that some people are born losers. Winners are people who think positively—and positivity repels germs. “To me, germs are just another kind of negativity.” He then goes on to tell the story of an unnamed acquaintance who is driven home from the hospital in an ambulance after being treated for injuries sustained in a crash. The ambulance crashes and he has to be taken back to the hospital: “Maybe he’s just a really unlucky guy. Or maybe he’s a loser. I know that sounds harsh, but let’s face it—some people _are_ losers.” The train of thought here is typically meandering, but the logic is clear enough. **Losers are inevitably doomed by their own negativity, of which germs are a physical form. Infection happens to some people because they are natural losers**. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/258 "2020-06-27T04:16:02Z")
What she said. Goes for ‘bitch’ also. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/259 "2020-06-27T04:21:12Z")
Sorry, meant that as a reply to Siam\_ Sam re: using ‘cunt’ to disparage a woman. I apologize, I am very new to SD, much less have not mastered the conversion and I clearly have not gotten the hang of the new way to quote when replying (or else I would have included quote of said Siam\_Sam in this apology). Give me time…and encouragement. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/260 "2020-06-27T04:25:50Z")
> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > Sorry, meant that as a reply to Siam\_ Sam re: using ‘cunt’ to disparage a woman. > > I apologize, I am very new to SD, much less have not mastered the conversion and I clearly have not gotten the hang of the new way to quote when replying (or else I would have included quote of said Siam\_Sam in this apology). Give me time…and encouragement You did fine! There’s a little link in your previous post that shows who you (correctly) replied to, which made it clear you meant Siam\_Sam’s post. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/261 "2020-06-27T07:23:49Z")
We are several years into the Trump presidency and I realize I still have no idea what names like Flynn, Manafort, Stone, etc. are all about - nor do I care to find out. Enough of a mental mess. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/262 "2020-06-27T07:24:51Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > This is a good article about how Trump is dealing with the virus, attempting to understand why he is so callous about the pain and suffering it is causing. And, of course, it comes down to winners and losers. > > [https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/25/1955974/-Trump-believes-anyone-who-dies-from-Covid-19-is-a-loser?utm\_campaign=trending](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/25/1955974/-Trump-believes-anyone-who-dies-from-Covid-19-is-a-loser?utm_campaign=trending) > > > [@](#): > > > > In _How to Get Rich_ , Trump links his own germaphobia to the idea that some people are born losers. Winners are people who think positively—and positivity repels germs. “To me, germs are just another kind of negativity.” He then goes on to tell the story of an unnamed acquaintance who is driven home from the hospital in an ambulance after being treated for injuries sustained in a crash. The ambulance crashes and he has to be taken back to the hospital: “Maybe he’s just a really unlucky guy. Or maybe he’s a loser. I know that sounds harsh, but let’s face it—some people _are_ losers.” The train of thought here is typically meandering, but the logic is clear enough. **Losers are inevitably doomed by their own negativity, of which germs are a physical form. Infection happens to some people because they are natural losers**. Curious to see his response to his own voters getting it… ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/263 "2020-06-27T10:31:00Z")
Hear! Here! No “C” words! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=14)