# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2757 "2020-08-24T21:53:04Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > I don’t think you can force people to donate blood against their will, just as you can’t force someone to donate an organ against their will. [here you go](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/08/24/904347130/another-covid-19-medical-mystery-patients-come-off-ventilator-but-linger-in-a-co?sc=ipad&f=1007) /swift ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2758 "2020-08-24T22:23:46Z")
Brace yourselves - [the Melania tapes are incoming.](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/melania-trashed-trump-and-his-kids-and-her-former-adviser-has-it-on-tape-report/) > A former friend and aide to first lady Melania Trump reportedly has damning audio recordings of her trashing both President Donald Trump and his adult children. > > [According to reporter Yashar Ali](https://yashar.substack.com/p/scoop-melania-trumps-comments-about), former [Melania right-hand woman Stephanie Winston Wolkoff](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/melanias-right-hand-woman-just-handed-over-a-treasure-trove-of-documents-to-the-dc-attorney-general/) secretly recorded the first lady making disparaging remarks about the president and his family, and will detail more about her family relationships in a book that’s due to be published next month. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2759 "2020-08-24T23:15:39Z")
I swear, everyone Trump has ever hired (or married) is either in jail or is on the record saying he’s a moron and unfit for office. One notable exception is Kellyane Conway. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2760 "2020-08-24T23:29:34Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > I don’t think you can force people to donate blood against their will, just as you can’t force someone to donate an organ against their will. You’re [sure](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-pU8TFsg0) about that? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2761 "2020-08-25T00:18:12Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > You’re [sure](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-pU8TFsg0) about that? I was thinking more along the lines of [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4voZl28ADM). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2762 "2020-08-25T01:10:04Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > secretly recorded the first lady making disparaging remarks about the president and his family, and will detail more about her family relationships in a book that’s due to be published next month. Far be it from me to defend that nest of vipers, but, shit, man, husbands and wives trash each other all the time. It seems pretty low to spread that around. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2763 "2020-08-25T01:12:25Z")
Seriously? I’ve never “trashed” my wife before. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2764 "2020-08-25T01:17:00Z")
Neither have I, but hoo boy, many have. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2765 "2020-08-25T01:18:09Z")
If it’s a common occurrence, something that people do all the time, why is it bad to talk about it? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2766 "2020-08-25T02:25:44Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > One notable exception is Kellyane Conway. She never meant to stay this long, but the pleasure of micturating in George’s mulligatawny was just too hard to give up. However, after some four years in that position, Paltrowing herself over the bowl, her bits have become more tenderized than she can tolerate. It is time for her to make up with her man and find inventive new avenues of torture. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2767 "2020-08-25T02:52:47Z")
Give it six months. If Trump goes down in flames in November, I fully expect a tell-all from her. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2768 "2020-08-25T03:33:29Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > She never meant to stay this long, but the pleasure of micturating in George’s mulligatawny was just too hard to give up. However, after some four years in that position, Paltrowing herself over the bowl, her bits have become more tenderized than she can tolerate. It is time for her to make up with her man and find inventive new avenues of torture. You DO paint a picture, I must say. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2769 "2020-08-25T03:40:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > She never meant to stay this long, but the pleasure of micturating in George’s mulligatawny was just too hard to give up. However, after some four years in that position, Paltrowing herself over the bowl, her bits have become more tenderized than she can tolerate. It is time for her to make up with her man and find inventive new avenues of torture. She’s leaving because her **daughter** wants a divorce. From her. That smarts! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2770 "2020-08-25T05:08:54Z")
The National Park Service put out an Individual 1 propaganda film in violation of federal law. https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?height=224&width=400&share_id&href=https://www.facebook.com/USInterior/videos/759596168193731/ ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2771 "2020-08-25T13:31:07Z")
I’m pretty sure that Article 2 means that Trump can simple sign an EO to that effect. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2772 "2020-08-25T14:38:45Z")
Here’s some news: > **[FDA chief apologizes for overstating plasma effect on virus](https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-election-2020-ap-top-news-health-politics-a7f0e8aac34a860ad502912564681b7c)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Responding to an outcry from medical experts, Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn on Tuesday apologized for overstating the life-saving benefits of treating COVID-19 patients with convalescent plasma. > [@](#): > > “I have been criticized for remarks I made Sunday night about the benefits of convalescent plasma. The criticism is entirely justified. What I should have said better is that the data show a relative risk reduction not an absolute risk reduction,” Hahn tweeted. > [@](#): > > “It’s extraordinary to me that a person involved in clinical trials could make that mistake,” said Dr. Peter Lurie, a former FDA official under the Obama administration who now leads the nonprofit Center for Science in the Public Interest. “It’s mind-boggling.” Everything (and everyone) Trump comes in contact with gets tarnished and corrupted. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2773 "2020-08-25T15:25:46Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Everything (and everyone) Trump comes in contact with gets tarnished and corrupted. It’s the cheap gold plating he puts on everything; that stuff always wears off eventually. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2774 "2020-08-25T15:31:43Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > If they had omitted the pledge entirely, no one would have even noticed; it’s not like the PoA is mandatory. > > I haven’t been in a room where the pledge was recited since High School (1979). What’s wrong with people who feel the need to publicly pledge allegiance to flag? Well, look at their behavior. They’re afraid their actions will be seen as tantamount to renouncing their allegiance, so they NEED to publicly restate it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2775 "2020-08-25T16:04:17Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > Everything (and everyone) Trump comes in contact with gets tarnished and corrupted. > > It’s the cheap gold plating he puts on everything; that stuff always wears off eventually. I prefer “everything Trump touches turns to shit.” And he _says_ it’s gold. It’s actually gold-colored spray paint - a discount shitty brand too. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/2776 "2020-08-25T16:07:02Z")
> **[Trump puts 'America first', has record of strength, success: Nikki Haley](https://www.aninews.in/news/world/us/trump-puts-america-first-has-record-of-strength-success-nikki-haley20200825092838/)** > > Washington \[US\], August 25 (ANI): Former US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley on Monday (local time) praised President Donald Trump, saying he has put "America first" and took tough steps against China, Iran and North Korea. No, Trump always puts Trump first. Anything actually benefiting America is a coincidence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=139)