# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 152
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3038 "2020-09-01T23:29:04Z")
Individual 1 says protesters are using “bags of soup” to throw at police. > **[Bizarre Trump Rant From July About Protesters Using 'Bags of Soup' as Weapons...](https://secondnexus.com/donald-trump-bags-of-soup)** > > Woooow. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3039 "2020-09-01T23:35:06Z")
As seen on Twitter; > TSA agent: Whatcha got there? > Anarchist, trying to stuff duffle bag full of Campbells Chunky into airport scanner: This is just soup for my family > 95 days of rioting in Portland and Biden still hasn’t condemned soup. And you can buy it anywhere. Some stores that sell it are even open 24 hours. Let that sink in. > Does the Defense Secretary know we could be saving money by replacing traditional weapons with #BagsOfSoup? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3040 "2020-09-01T23:40:05Z")
Four more years! [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NKwjHRWZZ8n-b_7PvKfmDYjeTuc9TWbJMSFT_AzaQ9SMMi-MM8B6_HruxPJbFLN3ljCB5zfGoigrIXHBYeX3fFclB-N73Exf4aw5SllNmm8UZANKKsFM5BhSFA-QrWcAbw-vzo4Fgg=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/GnWh3DkCKK3B6hJs8) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3041 "2020-09-02T00:41:02Z")
Anyone who has access to _Won’t You Be My Neighbor?_, the 2018 documentary about Fred Rogers & his neighborhood, should start it and advance to the 8:14 mark. King Friday XIII and his land during that first week was eerily similar to Trump’s America today! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3042 "2020-09-02T01:03:19Z")
Whoops. That’s the 14 minute mark; 8 is the hour the program started! Yeah, it’s on one of my local PBS stations right now. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3043 "2020-09-02T01:41:29Z")
Trump has now fully become a caricature of himself. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3044 "2020-09-02T01:56:31Z")
Trivia: What happened in October 1907? What happened again in October 1929? What happened in October 1987? What happened in September 2008? What month is it now? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3045 "2020-09-02T02:08:07Z")
You reading my Twitter feed Asahi? 😉 > ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3046 "2020-09-02T04:06:29Z")
To be fair to $45 (and I hate doing that 🤮), I think he was talking about bags _of cans_ of soup. As in, using a large bag to carry a lot of cans of soup. It’s not unusual to refer to a part of something (soup) when you’re actually talking about a whole thing (can of soup). [It’s a rhetorical device called synecdoche](https://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-syn1.htm) , and you can blame James Thurber for me even knowing such a thing exists. (At least, I think that’s what’s happening here. At any rate, it’s a fairly common speech pattern, and much as I hate $45, this is not something I can ding him on.) 🤮 🤮 🤮 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3047 "2020-09-02T05:39:02Z")
OK, so it looks like have a pretty solid anarchist profile here: dressed in black, fresh clothing, boarding planes in large groups, toting bags of canned soup. I hope law enforcement appreciates just how much easier Trump (and mooks like Rand Paul) is/are making their job. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3048 "2020-09-02T06:14:22Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > … you can blame James Thurber for me even knowing such a thing … I find my faith in Thurber shaken – after all, was he not the one who wrote “the ShitGibbon is a mythical beast” ? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3049 "2020-09-02T07:22:28Z")
The Lincoln Project is hitting Trump where it hurts in their new ad, titled [“Ratings”](https://lincolnproject.us/video/ratings/) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3050 "2020-09-02T08:52:00Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Morning Joe suggested that they go with, “Are you better off now than you were in January?” “Are you better off now than you were twelve hours ago?” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3051 "2020-09-02T09:01:44Z")
> Individual 1, replying to a question as to what he would do in his second term: > “But so I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very, very, I think we’d have a very, very solid, we would continue what we’re doing, we’d solidify what we’ve done, and we have other things on our plate that we want to get done,” If it talks like a conman… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3052 "2020-09-02T11:41:59Z")
[The conman says he’s the one who sent in the National Guard.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-arrives-kenosha-praise-police-180526177.html) > In response to the violence, Evers activated the Wisconsin National Guard on Aug. 24. The governor requested assistance from the other states three days later. > However, Trump claimed credit for ordering in the National Guard. > “This ended within an hour, as soon as we announced we were coming, and then they saw we were here. This ended immediately,” Trump said during a tour of law enforcement operations in Kenosha. > He praised members of the National Guard, who he said “put out the flame immediately.” Yet again, the jackass proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that he has zero clue about how the government of which he is purportedly in charge works. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3053 "2020-09-02T11:42:02Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > To be fair to $45 (and I hate doing that 🤮), I think he was talking about bags _of cans_ of soup. As in, using a large bag to carry a lot of cans of soup. > > It’s not unusual to refer to a part of something (soup) when you’re actually talking about a whole thing (can of soup). [It’s a rhetorical device called synecdoche](https://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-syn1.htm) , and you can blame James Thurber for me even knowing such a thing exists. (At least, I think that’s what’s happening here. At any rate, it’s a fairly common speech pattern, and much as I hate $45, this is not something I can ding him on.) It’s not synedoche here. It’s brain damage. 🙄 > [@eschereal](#): > > I find my faith in Thurber shaken – after all, was he not the one who wrote “the ShitGibbon is a mythical beast” ? That was [Lewis Carroll.](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43909/the-hunting-of-the-snark) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3054 "2020-09-02T11:57:27Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Anyone who has access to _Won’t You Be My Neighbor?_ , the 2018 documentary about Fred Rogers & his neighborhood, should start it and advance to the 14 minute mark. King Friday XIII and his land during that first week was eerily similar to Trump’s America today! For those who don’t have the documentary available, I’ll try to summarize. King Friday, wanting to maintain his status quo, institutes border guards and adds barbed wire (actually chicken wire) to the top of his castle’s perimeter wall. Meanwhile, Henrietta Pussycat is afraid of her neighborhood being invaded by people with guns and Lady Aberlin is trying to encourage peace & love. I wish all five episodes from that week were online but I can only find the first three. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3055 "2020-09-02T12:05:39Z")
Was he talking about bags of Goya soup? > **[Black Bean Soup](https://www.goya.com/en/recipes/black-bean-soup)** > > Prepare Black Bean Soup with rich GOYA® seasoning and enjoy a timeless dish that is popular in Cuba and throughout South America for its versatility and nutritional value. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3056 "2020-09-02T12:45:56Z")
You know it. 😉 So, how much longer can we keep kicking that market can down the road? > **[The pros are getting ready for a market crash — retail investors, not so...](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-pros-are-getting-ready-for-a-market-crash-retail-investors-not-so-much-top-economist-warns-11598970447)** > > Mohamed El-Erian, Allianz’s chief economic adviser, explained in an op-ed for the Financial Times how action in the options market should be taken as a... > **[WARNING: Warren Buffett’s Just Gave Another Signal for a Market Crash](https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/warning-warren-buffett-just-gave-162224740.html)** > > The legendary investor Warren Buffett’s recent moves could be an early signal for an upcoming terrible economic slowdown and a big market crash. Let’s find out how you can prepare for it.The post WARNING: Warren Buffett’s Just Gave Another Signal for... ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3057 "2020-09-02T14:19:38Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > I bought this book last night. mr Schmidt was on rachel maddow’s show last night. a bit disturbing that investigations have been dropped into the deep cracks. I’m buying this book today as well. Schmidt was back on MSNBC last night with Lawrence O’Donnell, and I’ve never seen him so animated – which, if you are familiar with Mr. Schmidt, you understand is a bit alarming in and of itself. He seems perplexed and even a little appalled that the big takeaway from his book so far is the comparatively small reference to Trump’s health. While this is obviously an important concern, Schmidt clearly feels that his work to reveal that the failure to investigate the counterintelligence aspect of Trump’s relationship with Russia is the most significant point he is trying to make. One thing seems sure: Rod Rosenstein betrayed his country and gave Trump an enormous gift by ensuring Trump’s full relationship with Russian oligarchs was never investigated. I have visions of Andrew McCabe puking his guts up when he learned that Mueller wasn’t permitted to investigate it, either. (McCabe’s book is another excellent read.) It’s extremely disturbing to learn about, and we must know the entirety of it. Personally, I have long believed Trump is a full, witting Russian asset. He may not entirely grasp the broad range of damage caused by his actions on Putin’s behalf, but he absolutely understands it is more important to his own well being to serve Russian interests at the expense of America’s. What a piece of shit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=151) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=153)