# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 167
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3338 "2020-09-09T15:02:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We may be forced to triage this thread, there is too many. Maybe a higher level “Godawmighty catastrophic”, one step above “Truly awful fucking bullshit”. Maybe sub-levels “Totally Nazi”, “Creeping Facism” and just plain old ordinary “Racist poison”. Hopefully in November, we’ll launch a sequel: The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Undoing. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3339 "2020-09-09T15:31:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We may be forced to triage this thread, there is too many. Maybe a higher level “Godawmighty catastrophic”, one step above “Truly awful fucking bullshit”. Maybe sub-levels “Totally Nazi”, “Creeping Facism” and just plain old ordinary “Racist poison”. Or maybe break it down into monthly installments. The man simply cannot stop lying or fucking up. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3340 "2020-09-09T16:01:39Z")
“Lies & Bullshit” “African Dictator Wanna-be” “Subverting democracy, destroying constitutional norms and the rule of law” “Despicable human being” ---
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3341 "2020-09-09T16:33:13Z")
> **[The art of the steal? Trump swipes $750,000 worth of art from the US Embassy...](https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2020/09/08/the-art-of-the-steal-trump-swipes-dollar750000-worth-of-art-from-the-us-embassy-in-francebut-none-of-it-is-the-real-deal)** > > The US president decided he wanted pieces from ambassador’s residence during a 2018 visit and took them back to the White House without notice ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3342 "2020-09-09T16:36:35Z")
I like the kicker that all of the pieces were replicas or reproductions, and Trump may not know that. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3343 "2020-09-09T16:38:40Z")
From the article: > It remains unclear whether Trump knew that none of the pieces were original when he decided to take them home with him, or whether he, in truth, was the real sucker. He’s also a loser. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3344 "2020-09-09T16:40:30Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > I like the kicker that all of the pieces were replicas or reproductions, and Trump may not know that. - I’m curious if the loot is still in the WH or has wandered off to a Trump property. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3345 "2020-09-09T16:44:38Z")
They were replicas and still worth $750,000? Damn… ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3346 "2020-09-09T16:47:49Z")
Woodward has trump on tape taking about the virus. To paraphrase Jim Comey, Lordy, there are tapes! White House press conference is being delayed, delayed, delayed. Talking to Woodward, Woodward! of all people, on tape. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3347 "2020-09-09T16:49:56Z")
If this is the September surprise, I can’t wait to see what the October surprise is. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3348 "2020-09-09T16:55:25Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Talking to Woodward, Woodward! of all people, on tape. From the Washington Post: > [@](#): > > Ten days later, Trump called Woodward and revealed that he thought the situation was far more dire than what he had been saying publicly. > > “You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump said in a Feb. 7 call. “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu.” > > “This is deadly stuff,” the president repeated for emphasis. > [@](#): > > Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19 that he deliberately minimized the danger. “I wanted to always play it down,” the president said. > **[Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was ‘deadly’ and worse than the...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump/2020/09/09/0368fe3c-efd2-11ea-b4bc-3a2098fc73d4_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_woodward-1210p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans)** > > In new book ‘Rage,’ Trump says he deliberately played down threat of pandemic and says he feels no responsibility to better understand the anger and pain of Black Americans. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3349 "2020-09-09T17:07:22Z")
He is running around holding maskless rallys, mocking people who wear masks. Nearly 200 thousand dead, and he is still encouraging people to spread the virus. Woodward on record, on tape… 18 interviews… what a daft git. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3350 "2020-09-09T17:18:23Z")
Peter Strzok, the former FBI agent that Individual 1 has villified, has a book coming out and he’s making the talk show circuit. He said yesterday that he knows a lot of stuff about Individual 1 that would bring him down if he released it, but he won’t do it due to national security. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3351 "2020-09-09T17:23:45Z")
So our President played down the virus, to make sure that the people didn’t panic? How sweet. You know what else would instill confidence and reduce panic? Competent leadership. Guess he didn’t think of that. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3352 "2020-09-09T17:30:25Z")
For Og’s sake, the man as president is an enormous threat to national security! Surely getting him out is the lesser of two evils. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3353 "2020-09-09T17:31:18Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Peter Strzok, the former FBI agent that Individual 1 has villified, has a book coming out and he’s making the talk show circuit. He said yesterday that he knows a lot of stuff about Individual 1 that would bring him down if he released it, but he won’t do it due to national security. Saw him on PBS News Hour. “I have secrets that will shake the world, but I can’t tell you.” I find that very weasely. Our national security is threatend BY trump. If there is dirt, bring it out! (well, someboidy, maybe not Strzok. but somebody,.) ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3354 "2020-09-09T17:36:51Z")
> So our President played down the virus, to make sure that the people didn’t panic? How sweet. You know what else would instill confidence and reduce panic? Competent leadership. Guess he didn’t think of that. From what I’m seeing, Trump made this call before there was a single US death. My guess is that he fully expected this to just blow over in the US, but by getting it on record he could claim a huge victory that he saved America from a terrible pandemic. Most likely at this point, he was exaggerating the threat (as far as he understood it) to make it look like his victory was that much better. Hoist upon his own petard! ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3355 "2020-09-09T17:38:24Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Saw him on PBS News Hour. “I have secrets that will shake the world, but I can’t tell you.” I find that very weasely. Our national security is threatend BY trump. If there is dirt, bring it out! (well, someboidy, maybe not Strzok. but somebody,.) I’m betting there are large number of criminal cases opened the split second Biden says “So Help Me God” at his inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3356 "2020-09-09T17:38:44Z")
Sarah the Huckster is trying to defend her ex boss on his criticisms of the military. She says she has been in the room when he, yes, he, the President (allegedly), called military families to notify them that their loved ones had been killed in battle. Presidents do not notify military families of the deaths of their loved ones, and certainly not over the phone. > **[Sarah Huckabee Sanders flubs Trump defense with false claim](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/sarah-huckabee-sanders-flubs-trump-defense-false-claim-n1239612)** > > Sarah Huckabee Sanders said she'd heard Trump notify families about the death of fallen U.S. troops. As it turns out, that wasn't quite true. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3357 "2020-09-09T17:45:02Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > > > Now we’re discussing the cavities and orifices of this horrible, horrible man? > > Who knew that an orifice could have orifices of its own? Truly, Trump is the Mandelbrot president. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=166) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=168)