# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 171
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3418 "2020-09-10T16:20:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Presidents do not notify military families of the deaths of their loved ones, and certainly not over the phone. Actually, I could totally see him doing this. "Hello, is this Mrs. [name], mother of Corporal [name]? … Good, good, glad I caught you. This is President Trump. I just wanted to tell you your son’s dead – _loser!_ \>click\< “I crack me up!” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3419 "2020-09-10T16:33:15Z")
> > [@DesertDog](#): > > > > Actually, I could totally see him doing this. "Hello, is this Mrs. [name], mother of Corporal [name]? … Good, good, glad I caught you. This is President Trump. I just wanted to tell you your son’s dead – _loser!_ \>click\< “I crack me up!” Based on reporting, it would be more like “Hello, is this the mother of Corporal ummm, uhhhh…hang on…(muffled) Hey, what’s this loser’s name? How am I supposed to remember the name of every sucker who’s stupid enough to die for their country? That’s YOUR goddam job idiot!! (back on) Sorry, Mrs. SMITH. Anyway, your son’s dead. But he knew what he signed up for, amirite?” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3420 "2020-09-10T16:36:42Z")
I am reminded of Commander Vimes not allowing Nobby to deliver bad news: “We don’t want any of that ‘Bet you a dollar you’re the Widow Jackson’ nonsense.” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3421 "2020-09-10T16:38:42Z")
He’s like one of these killers you see on Crime TV or Dateline, who’s narcissistic enough to believe that if he just talks to the police and acts like he’s got nothing to hide he can somehow outsmart them and get them off his case. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3422 "2020-09-10T17:07:51Z")
I think Sarah just misspoke – she said “notification” calls, when they were really condolence calls. She’s still a lying sack of shit and he’s still an asshole, though. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3423 "2020-09-10T17:23:50Z")
I’d believe “notification” before I believe “condolence”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3424 "2020-09-10T17:29:41Z")
I’d believe “solicitation for political donation” before either. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3425 "2020-09-10T17:33:03Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’d believe “solicitation for political donation” before either. - I’d believe “looting the Treasury” before “solicitation for political donation”. Actually, I’d believe The Administration demanding payment of a “Notification Charge” before connecting the call. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3426 "2020-09-10T17:35:41Z")
In fairness, the Notification Charge does include a free copy of _The Art of the Deal_, written by Donal… err, with Donald’s Trump’s name on it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3427 "2020-09-10T17:38:29Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > In fairness, the Notification Charge does include a free copy of _The Art of the Deal_ , written by Donal… err, with Donald’s Trump’s name on it. For an extra $20, they won’t send the free copy. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3428 "2020-09-10T17:53:55Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > I meant thirty-five. [at least forty](https://secretsofmanhattan.wordpress.com/2017/08/16/the-bonwit-teller-building-how-donald-trump-destroyed-an-art-deco-treasure/) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3429 "2020-09-10T18:24:10Z")
Latest Woodward book excerpt from [BusinessInsider.com](http://BusinessInsider.com): > **['I saved his a--': Trump boasted that he protected Saudi Crown Prince...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-woodward-i-saved-his-ass-mbs-khashoggi-rage-2020-9)** > > Trump said MBS told him he was innocent and then stressed Saudi Arabia's importance as a US trading partner. The CIA found MBS ordered the killing. Quote from the article: > “Do you believe that he did it?” Woodward asked. > > “No, he says that he didn’t do it,” Trump replied. > > “I know, but do you really believe —” Woodward began before Trump cut him off. > > “He says very strongly that he didn’t do it. Bob, they spent $400 billion over a fairly short period of time,” the president said. In other words, “Bob, I’ve got 400 billion reasons to believe MBS didn’t kill Kashoggi.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3430 "2020-09-10T19:41:04Z")
What ever happened to the oleander extract for the cure for coronavirus? ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3431 "2020-09-10T19:48:08Z")
Just wait two more weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3432 "2020-09-10T20:07:55Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Just wait two more weeks That’s when the much-ballyhooed vaccine is supposed to be announced? They’re going to shoot us all up with oleander extract? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3433 "2020-09-10T20:33:30Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What ever happened to the oleander extract for the cure for coronavirus? Please try to keep up. The current medicine of the week is [calcifediol](https://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/2020/09/pilot-study-stirs-debate-over-whether-vitamin-d-analog-can-help-coronavirus-patients-recover.html). Trump hasn’t tweeted about it yet, so maybe there’s actually something to this one. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3434 "2020-09-10T21:23:02Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > … (ShitGibbon) hasn’t tweeted about it yet, so maybe there’s actually something to this one. More than likely he just has no financial stake in it. Not that I have become more cynical or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3435 "2020-09-10T21:46:09Z")
Trump explaining that it’s all Bob Woodward’s fault: > If Bob Woodward thought that what I said was bad, then he should have immediately, right after I said it, gone out to the authorities so they can prepare and let them know ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3436 "2020-09-10T22:02:56Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Trump explaining that it’s all Bob Woodward’s fault: > > > If Bob Woodward thought that what I said was bad, then he should have immediately, right after I said it, gone out **to the authorities** so they can prepare and let them know- My bold. Does trump realize that (alas) he IS “the authorities”? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3437 "2020-09-10T22:04:41Z")
That would make him responsible. And he takes no responsibility or blame, only credit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=170) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=172)