# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 172
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3438 "2020-09-10T22:13:05Z")
Pro-Individual 1 nonprofit closes its doors after shady practices and failure to keep its paperwork up to date. > **[Pro-Trump Black nonprofit quietly shuttered following sketchy cash giveaways](https://www.salon.com/2020/09/10/pro-trump-black-nonprofit-quietly-shuttered-following-sketchy-cash-giveaways/)** > > Scandal-plagued nonprofit group launched by Trump ally Darrell Scott has effectively been shut down ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3439 "2020-09-10T23:56:37Z")
Curses! Foiled again! > **[Federal Court Rejects Trump’s Order to Exclude Undocumented From Census...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/10/us/census-undocumented-trump.html)** > > A three-judge panel unanimously said President Trump lacked the authority to remove noncitizens from census counts used to allot House seats. > WASHINGTON — A federal court on Thursday rejected President Trump’s [order to exclude unauthorized immigrants](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/us/politics/trump-immigrants-census-redistricting.html?searchResultPosition=18) from population counts that will be used next year to reallocate seats in the House of Representatives, ruling that it was so obviously illegal that a lawsuit challenging the order need not go to a trial. > > The court, a three-judge panel in Federal District Court in Manhattan, said Mr. Trump’s proposal exceeded his authority under federal law governing the census. The panel said there was no need to consider a second claim in the lawsuit that the president’s order violated [the Constitution’s requirement](https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv) to base apportionment of the House on “the whole number of persons in each state.” > > “The merits of the parties’ dispute are not particularly close or complicated,” the judges wrote in granting summary judgment to the plaintiffs, a view that was broadly shared by legal scholars. Two of the judges, Richard C. Wesley and Peter W. Hall, were named to the bench by President George W. Bush. The third, Jesse M. Furman, was nominated by President Barack Obama. > … You can bet Unca Mitch is gnashing his teeth. ---
**Author:** ![rboyce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rboyce/32/4066_2.png) [@rboyce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rboyce)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3440 "2020-09-10T23:59:14Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Of course there are many monkey wrenches that Trump can throw into the works between Nov 3 and Jan 20. Trump has a friend that will keep trump in the White House _William_ Pelham _Barr_ ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3441 "2020-09-11T02:16:47Z")
Seema Verma, the head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, “abused the federal contracting process” and “wasted millions of taxpayer dollars” on consultants and other services to boost her own profile, lawmakers found as part of a lengthy congressional investigation. > **[Top Trump official Seema Verma 'abused' government rules by spending $3.5...](https://www.businessinsider.com/medicare-medicaid-chief-verma-abused-rules-spending-35-million-2020-9)** > > Verma hired a team of pricey consultants to boost her profile, rather than relying on hundreds of government communications staffers at her disposal. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3442 "2020-09-11T02:41:30Z")
Trump equates his coronavirus BS with the British government telling people to keep calm and carry on during World War Two. (You all remember how Churchill called the Luftwaffe a hoax and declared that Nazi Germany would go away like a miracle when the weather got warmer, right?) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3443 "2020-09-11T03:43:24Z")
I’d sure like to know who was responsible for playing “Fortunate Son” as Individual 1 stepped off the plane at his Michigan rally. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3444 "2020-09-11T05:23:54Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > ’d sure like to know who was responsible for playing “Fortunate Son” as Individual 1 stepped off the plane at his Michigan rally. I don’t doubt for a second that Loser Donald picked it himself, because he lacks the patience or curiosity to actually listen to the lyrics and thinks to himself “I’m a fortunate son! Everyone’s going to be so amazed by how tremendously great I am!” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3445 "2020-09-11T05:54:05Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Trump equates his coronavirus BS with the British government telling people to keep calm and carry on during World War Two. > > (You all remember how Churchill called the Luftwaffe a hoax and declared that Nazi Germany would go away like a miracle when the weather got warmer, right?) It is worse for Trump when one notices that the classic “Keep Calm and Carry On” motto was in a poster that was made then but not released during WWII. > **[The story behind ‘Keep Calm and Carry On’](https://www.london.ac.uk/about/history/history-senate-house/story-behind-keep-calm-carry)** > > The poster's fascinating history began at Senate House where it was issued through the Ministry of Defence during the Second World War. > The now-ubiquitous ‘Keep Calm and Carry On’ phrase was chosen for its clear message of ‘sober restraint’ and was coined by the shadow [Ministry of Information(Opens in new window)](https://senate-house-histories.london.ac.uk/ministry-of-information/) at some point between 27 June and 6 July 1939. > > It was one of a series of three posters that would be issued in the event of war (the others read ‘Your Courage, Your Cheerfulness, Your Resolution; Will Bring Us Victory’ and ‘Freedom is in Peril; Defend it with all Your Might’). **The ‘Keep Calm’ design was never officially issued and only a very small number of originals have survived to the present day.** > > 2.45 million posters displaying it were printed, only to be pulped and recycled in 1940 to help the British government deal with a serious paper shortage. > > It wasn’t until a copy was discovered in a bookshop in Northumberland in 2000, and reproductions of it began to be sold a year later, that its fame was established. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3446 "2020-09-11T11:27:26Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I don’t doubt for a second that Loser Donald picked it himself, because he lacks the patience or curiosity to actually listen to the lyrics How many GOP pols have used “Born In The USA”? Not exactly new. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3447 "2020-09-11T13:08:47Z")
**NIH Director Imagines What Aliens Would Think Of Maskless Trump Supporters** > [@](#): > > “Imagine you were an alien who landed on planet Earth and you saw that our planet was afflicted by an infectious disease and that masks were an effective way to prevent the spread,” Collins continued. “And yet when you went around, you saw some people not wearing them, some people wearing them, and you tried to figure out why and it turned out it was their political party.” > > Collins suggested an extraterrestrial would “think this is just not a planet that has much promise for the future if something that is so straightforward can somehow get twisted into decision-making that really makes no sense.” > > “So, as a scientist, I’m pretty puzzled and rather disheartened,” he added. Okay, so now I have this mental image of one of Giger’s Mommy Xenomorphs from the Alien series dragging a protesting hatchling away from a Trump crowd by its tail and hissing (in Alien-speak) “No, don’t bite one of _them_. They’re probably diseased.” > **[NIH Director Imagines What Aliens Would Think Of Maskless Trump Supporters](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nih-director-trump-supporter-masks-alien_n_5f5b4da3c5b67602f603c230)** > > Hint: it's not good. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3448 "2020-09-11T13:51:41Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Okay, so now I have this mental image of one of Giger’s Mommy Xenomorphs from the Alien series dragging a protesting hatchling away from a Trump crowd by its tail and hissing (in Alien-speak) “No, don’t bite one of _them_ . They’re probably diseased.” Wait, you mean the Wall didn’t do anything to keep out these illegal aliens? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3449 "2020-09-11T14:05:08Z")
🎶 All in all, they went through…all the gaps in the Wall. 🎶 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3450 "2020-09-11T14:10:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I’d sure like to know who was responsible for playing “Fortunate Son” as Individual 1 stepped off the plane at his Michigan rally. Unrelated to Trump, this popped into my head today: ♫ I’ve got a feeling twenty-one Is going to be a good year… ♫ And then Trump came to mind and I thought, ‘Oh, yeah. We all remember how that turned out!’ ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3451 "2020-09-11T14:40:39Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I’d sure like to know who was responsible for playing “Fortunate Son” as Individual 1 stepped off the plane at his Michigan rally. That’s two painfully ironic songs that have actually played at trump appearances: “Live and Let Die” and “Fortunate Son”. We should put a playlist together for future trump events. Hmmm…“Pumped Up Kicks”? “Blurred Lines”? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3452 "2020-09-11T14:44:45Z")
“Fuck the World” by the Insane Clown Posse would be a good choice as well, representing both Trump’s attitude towards the rest of the planet and his actions or lack thereof on coronavirus. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3453 "2020-09-11T14:50:48Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > (You all remember how Churchill called the Luftwaffe a hoax and declared that Nazi Germany would go away like a miracle when the weather got warmer, right?) That was Chamberlain. Everything old is new again. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3454 "2020-09-11T14:53:36Z")
I’m trying to remember which one said that quinine was a game-changer for treating shrapnel wounds, or that the citizens should liberate their towns from blackout restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3455 "2020-09-11T15:03:51Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > (You all remember how Churchill called the Luftwaffe a hoax and declared that Nazi Germany would go away like a miracle when the weather got warmer, right?) > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > That was Chamberlain. Well, we’re getting Trump supporters telling us how Trump has brought peace to the Middle East. I suspect it will be as true for him as it was for Chamberlain. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3456 "2020-09-11T15:11:33Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > citizens should liberate their towns from blackout restrictions. Actually that’s a pretty good analogy. If you left your lights on during a bomb raid, the bombers aren’t accurate enough that they would hit you. Most likely, they wouldn’t. However, they would hit your neighborhood and city. Leaving your light on was unlikely to cause personal damage, but rather to others, and it is just freedom to shine a spotlight up into the night sky, only a totalitarian govt would tell me what to do with my preference for luminosity. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3457 "2020-09-11T15:21:50Z")
What astounds me is how Trump supporters to see that comment, hear that comment, of a president so blatantly transactional and look the other way. I could understand some of the right wing grievance politics in the late 90s and even during the Bush years about not feeling like they’re getting fair treatment in the media, but Jesus fucking Christ: that’s his voice on tape, no doubt. Conservatives just don’t care, which makes me ask what is it that conservatives are trying to conserve and preserve? In my mind, this is really at the heart of Trumpism. It’s tribalism on full display. It’s a tribe that feels that America should be governed by their value system and that they and their value system should be at the top of the socioeconomic and political hierarchy. It also reaffirms my sincere belief that in the minds of Trump’s most ardent supporters, maintaining this status quo is not only a cause that’s worth having some people (not themselves) die for (e.g. COVID); it’s also a cause that some are perfectly willing to kill others for. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=171) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=173)