# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 180
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3598 "2020-09-15T02:59:44Z")
I presume that they did not want to stand outdoors in 100 degree weather. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3599 "2020-09-15T03:00:12Z")
And now Caputo has deleted his Twitter account. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3600 "2020-09-15T03:01:29Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > I presume that they did not want to stand outdoors in 100 degree weather. I thought they don’t believe in global warming. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3601 "2020-09-15T03:03:31Z")
Trump only said it’s going to start getting cooler. That doesn’t count what the weather is going to be like today, of course. For what it’s worth, I’ll bet it does start getting cooler. In about two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3602 "2020-09-15T03:07:45Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It is September. In southern Nevada. Why did they need to have the rally indoors? Air conditioning? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3603 "2020-09-15T03:10:29Z")
What a bunch of grabables. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3604 "2020-09-15T05:19:47Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > If they rented out their space to people who broke the law… yes, they actually do have some liability. I wonder if they will try to get the Trump campaign to pay it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3605 "2020-09-15T11:54:41Z")
Trump packs four lies into a single sentence > [@](#): > > Dale said it happened in a tweet on Saturday, when the president attacked frequent target target Andrew McCabe, former deputy director of the FBI: > > _Was Andy McCabe ever forced to pay back the $700,000 illegally given to him and his wife, for his wife’s political campaign, by Crooked Hillary Clinton while Hillary was under FBI investigation, and McCabe was the head of the FBI??? Just askin’?_ > > Dale explained on the CNN website that Trump was referring to donations to the failed 2015 Virginia Senate campaign of McCabe’s wife, Dr. Jill McCabe. But he noted that the donations were all to her, not to him, that the donations were legal, that none came from former secretary of state Hillary Clinton and that McCabe was not “head of the FBI.” For most of 2015, he was the assistant director in charge of the Washington field office. > **[4 Lies In 1 Sentence: CNN Fact-Checker Says Trump May Have Just Set A Record](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-lies-record-4-in-1-sentence_n_5f605fd0c5b6e27db1320410)** > > The president's latest attack on a favorite target may have set a new low mark for falsehoods. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/fact-check-trump-mccabe-clinton-mcauliffe/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/fact-check-trump-mccabe-clinton-mcauliffe/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3606 "2020-09-15T11:58:51Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The Individual 1 campaign, in an ad, tells us to support the troops. The ad uses an image of Russian jets. Also I heard one of the soldiers is carrying a Kalishnakov rifle. I think, as I suggested with the ad saying trump was nominated for a “Noble Prize”, that the graphic artists putting these things together are trolling trump. There was also a conference trump spoke at last year in which they projected on a screen a fake presidential seal with a Russian-style 2-headed eagle holding a set of golf clubs. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3607 "2020-09-15T12:07:20Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Also I heard one of the soldiers is carrying a Kalishnakov rifle. He is. Far right, the gas block/operating rod is clear. However, on the left, the barrel of an AR rifle is visible. [![](https://compote.slate.com/images/31e50e7c-4bee-4ce3-97d0-3a3cab142897.png) ](https://compote.slate.com/images/31e50e7c-4bee-4ce3-97d0-3a3cab142897.png) [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Ak74l.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Ak74l.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3608 "2020-09-15T12:17:11Z")
Yep. Maybe it’s a preview of trump’s second and third terms, in which a joint Russo-American military under Commander-In-Chief Putin gets to work on taking over and occupying Russia’s enemies. Not every country’s leader will roll over as easy as trump. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3609 "2020-09-15T12:20:29Z")
You are verbalizing my nightmares of late. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3610 "2020-09-15T12:26:03Z")
sorry not\_what\_you\_d\_expect, I was trying for sarcastic exaggeration, but that’s becoming increasingly difficult in this climate. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3611 "2020-09-15T12:31:33Z")
> [@solost](#): > > sorry not\_what\_you\_d\_expect, I was trying for sarcastic exaggeration, but that’s becoming increasingly difficult in this climate. - Reality is moving faster than we can come up with the next worse step. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3612 "2020-09-15T14:26:44Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Reality is moving faster than we can come up with the next worse step. One step at a time. Like a minefield. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3613 "2020-09-15T15:12:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Wow, lets not arrest the _actual_ violators. I get what you’re saying, but with these pandemic restrictions, it’s the people who have control of the property that get penalized for allowing gatherings that violate the rules. It’s just the same if a restaurant breaks the 50% capacity (or whatever) rule: the owners of the restaurant gets fined, and not the diners. Well, the diners might get a separate fine, depending on the local rules, but the restaurateurs will also be penalized. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3614 "2020-09-15T15:15:42Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Well, the diners might get a separate fine, Which is the point I’m making. Fine the venue. But also fine the attendees who are equally guilty of violating the restrictions. A restaurant is different. If indoor dining is allowed, it’s entirely on the proprietor to track capacity limits. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3615 "2020-09-15T15:26:13Z")
After a few minutes of poking around, I found that the warehouse was owned by Xtreme Manufacturing, which is loaned by a local businessman (with a history of bankruptcies) named Don Ahern. Back in early August, Ahern was the primary organizer of an Evangelicals for Trump event, which was held at a hotel he owns. He was fined for holding that event as well. I think I they nailed the right person ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3616 "2020-09-15T16:53:32Z")
But the fine wasn’t nearly enough. It needs teeth. Start the fines at $100K and go up from there. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3617 "2020-09-15T17:50:09Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think I they nailed the right person Thinking maybe they didn’t… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=179) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=181)