# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3618 "2020-09-15T17:53:26Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> sorry not\_what\_you\_d\_expect, I was trying for sarcastic exaggeration, but that’s becoming increasingly difficult in this climate.

Climate change is fake!

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3619 "2020-09-15T17:54:48Z")

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Amerika? Amerida!

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3620 "2020-09-15T18:10:05Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Yay! I made a few edits to my review and got it posted on Amazon - I also refined it and made it funnier and added a picture. I think the problem was I referred to Trump’s ass — I changed that to rear end.

Wonderful! You’ve got 66 people finding it helpful at this time, too. Including me.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3621 "2020-09-15T18:10:34Z")

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While Individual 1 was being interviewed on Fox & Friends this morning, he announced to the hosts that he would be calling in every week for an hour long interview with them. This was news to them, and they weren’t quite sure how to react.

> **[Trump says weekly calls on 'Fox & Friends' are returning; Fox says maybe...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/media/fox-and-friends-trump-interview/index.html)**
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> President Trump says he is resuming his weekly visits to "Fox & Friends," the morning show that gave him a direct relationship with the Republican base before he ran for president.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3622 "2020-09-15T19:19:34Z")

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For the first time in their 175 year history, Scientific American magazine has endorsed a Presidential candidate. Biden.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3623 "2020-09-15T19:36:07Z")

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Individual 1 claims he read the entire Woodward book in one night.

> **[Noted Bibliophobe Donald Trump Claims He Read 466-Page Woodward Book in 1 Night](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/trump-claims-read-bob-woodward-book-rage-one-night.html)**
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> An extraordinary all-night reading session for the book-averse president.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3624 "2020-09-15T19:51:21Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 claims he read the entire Woodward book in one night.  
> [Trump Claims He Read 466-Page Bob Woodward Book in One Night](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/trump-claims-read-bob-woodward-book-rage-one-night.html)

He probably thought it was one of those picture flip-books.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3625 "2020-09-15T19:53:03Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> But the fine wasn’t nearly enough. It needs teeth. Start the fines at $100K and go up from there.

A buck per dead American. That would put it at $195,000 as of the time of this posting.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3626 "2020-09-15T20:15:15Z")

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That would work.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3627 "2020-09-15T20:21:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 claims he read the entire Woodward book in one night.

In the eyes and out the ears without registering in his empty head.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3628 "2020-09-15T20:24:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 claims he read the entire Woodward book in one night.

I’m sure he must have gotten it mixed up with [a book by a different Woodward.](https://www.lionhudson.com/page/article-detail/beautiful-new-childrens-book-from-antonia-woodward/?k=e201906271544358833)

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3629 "2020-09-15T20:26:14Z")

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I think those are above his reading level.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3630 "2020-09-15T20:34:47Z")

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In a “hastily called” meeting at HHS today, Caputo apologized for embarassing Secy Azar and the HHS, said that his mental (and physical) health has been affected, and that he’s considering a leave of absence.

Note that he didn’t apologize for being a batshit loony inciting civil war, for accusing his colleagues of being traitors, or admit that he was wrong. So he just basically committed seppuku in a conference room.

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I think he means he read the **title** of the book in one night. Since it’s just one word I probably believe him. Probably.

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I could believe that an aide read the title to him. That’s the limit of my belief.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3633 "2020-09-15T21:46:07Z")

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> Blockquote  
> Individual 1 claims he read the entire Woodward book in one night.  
> An extraordinary all-night reading session for the book-averse president.

Well, when you’ve already lived it you can skim the book pretty quickly!

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I believe that it’s possible…_Just_… that Trump could manage to use a sharpie to circle each appearance of his name in the book… But it would take him a week.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3635 "2020-09-15T22:57:30Z")

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How reliable do we think Vice is?

> **[An ICE Facility Allegedly Performed Hysterectomies, and the Squad Wants Answers](https://www.vice.com/en/article/889jpk/an-ice-facility-allegedly-performed-numerous-hysterectomies-and-the-squad-wants-a-reckoning)**
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> Rashida Tlaib demanded ICE be abolished and AOC referred to a longtime "program of mass human rights violations targeting immigrants."

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> How reliable do we think Vice is?

from the other thread in the pit at the moment, the consensus seems to be that this is being done by a single doctor and/or for profit detention facility, who have discovered that if they do a whole bunch of unnecessary surgery, they can make a ton of money.

Private, for profit prisons. Who could have predicted that they would be a bad idea?

And of course, nobody will take responsibility for oversight. Because that’s not how this administration rolls. Best we can expect is someone thrown under the bus and a comment from Fox News blaming Biden.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3637 "2020-09-15T23:45:03Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> How reliable do we think Vice is?
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> [An ICE Facility Allegedly Performed Numerous Hysterectomies, and the Squad Wants Answers](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/889jpk/an-ice-facility-allegedly-performed-numerous-hysterectomies-and-the-squad-wants-a-reckoning)

The story is also being carried by CNN, the BBC, the Guardian, and other ‘name’ outlets. Here’s what CNN has:

> **[Whistleblower alleges high rate of hysterectomies and medical neglect at ICE...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/immigration-customs-enforcement-medical-care-detainees/index.html)**
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> A whistleblower who previously worked at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Georgia detailed a high rate of hysterectomies and alleged medical neglect in a complaint filed to the Department of Homeland Security inspector general...

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