# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 183
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3658 "2020-09-16T15:46:04Z")
By this argument, nobody ever died of AIDS. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3659 "2020-09-16T15:48:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > To get the death rate, they need to divide the number of resolved cases by the number of deaths. Correction: They need to divide the number of deaths by the number of resolved cases. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3660 "2020-09-16T16:07:43Z")
Yeah, relying on herd immunity to solve the Covid problem, would be like dealing with an active shooter by saying “If we all stand up and hold still, eventually he’s going to run out of bullets.” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3661 "2020-09-16T16:11:54Z")
Hey, don’t give the trump admin. any ideas for how to deal with actual right-wing mass shooters 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3662 "2020-09-16T16:31:06Z")
Lordy Lord. For everything trump says, there’s a contradictory thing he said before: > ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3663 "2020-09-16T17:29:36Z")
The thing Trump said before that should never be forgotten and repeated now until the election: > **[Trump on coronavirus: If US has 100,000 to 200,000 deaths, we’ve done a ‘good...](https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/trump-on-coronavirus-if-us-has-100000-to-200000-deaths-weve-done-a-good-job.html)** > > The president extended restrictive social distancing guidelines through April 30. > # Trump on coronavirus: If US has 100,000 to 200,000 deaths, we’ve done a ‘good job’ Nope, you are a homicidal failure. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3664 "2020-09-16T17:45:05Z")
Not to mention: if herd immunity was the be-all-end-all in public health, no one would ever get the cold or flu again. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3665 "2020-09-16T17:45:11Z")
Just out of curiosity, I went on [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com) to see how they would possibly spin the trump town hall debacle. Nothing. Not a mention. Not even a video clip of Laura Ingraham calling it an “ambush” in the “Exclusive Clips” section. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3666 "2020-09-16T18:03:56Z")
They’re afraid to praise him now that he’s threatening to take over _Fox and Friends_ for an hour every week. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3667 "2020-09-16T18:16:01Z")
[quote=“CalMeacham, post:3605, topic:911083, full:true”] Trump packs four lies into a single sentence > [@](#): > > _Was Andy McCabe ever forced to pay back the $700,000 illegally given to him and his wife, for his wife’s political campaign, by Crooked Hillary Clinton while Hillary was under FBI investigation, and McCabe was the head of the FBI??? Just askin’?_ I just wanted to point out the fifth lie that seems to have been overlooked: “just asking”. JAQ-off. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3668 "2020-09-16T18:22:58Z")
That’s a new sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3669 "2020-09-16T18:44:38Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > When Churchill was on the top of a building, and he said everything’s going to be good, everything’s going to be – be calm. And you have the Nazis dropping bombs all over London, he was very brave because he was at the top of a building. It was very well known that he was standing on buildings, and they were bombing. And he says everyone’s going to be safe. I think Trump may have gotten Winston Churchill mixed up with King Kong. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3670 "2020-09-16T18:54:08Z")
And we shall make Britain Great Again, and we shall give every victim of the blitz plenty of paper towels, and we shall hope we passed the audition. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3671 "2020-09-16T18:56:33Z")
It’s one thing to say “everybody remain calm, we’ll be fine” because behind the scenes your guys are working like mad to make sure everything really is fine. It’s quite another to say “everything’s fine” and then _do nothing_, because you’re pretending your bullshit is really true. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3672 "2020-09-16T18:59:49Z")
> [@solost](#): > > A relative in my extended family said hospitals are intentionally over-reporting Covid deaths so they can get those sweet sweet government emergency funds, or something Er… WHAT government emergency funds? Is that like the government PPE that doesn’t exist, either? > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Yeah, relying on herd immunity to solve the Covid problem, would be like dealing with an active shooter by saying “If we all stand up and hold still, eventually he’s going to run out of bullets.” It’s not that I like this analogy, because it’s horrific, but it does seem congruent. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3673 "2020-09-16T19:25:06Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > It’s one thing to say “everybody remain calm, we’ll be fine” because behind the scenes your guys are working like mad to make sure everything really is fine. > > It’s quite another to say “everything’s fine” and then _do nothing_, because you’re pretending your bullshit is really true. And of course, it’s yet another thing to say “not only is everything fine, but anything you hear different is just a hoax cooked up by the other guys to make me look bad." ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3674 "2020-09-16T19:40:31Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > > [@solost](#): > > > > A relative in my extended family said hospitals are intentionally over-reporting Covid deaths so they can get those sweet sweet government emergency funds, or something > > Er… WHAT government emergency funds? Is that like the government PPE that doesn’t exist, either? I’m not sure, I was told that anecdote second-hand. But the upshot was that he claimed hospitals were inflating numbers of Covid deaths in order to reap a financial benefit of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3675 "2020-09-16T19:43:35Z")
The “government emergency funds” thing sounds like a variation of [this claim](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-patients/) that was very popular at the beginning of the shutdown…long story short, it involves Fox News and a misunderstanding about Medicare funds. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3676 "2020-09-16T19:53:50Z")
That sounds like what my brother-in-law was claiming. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3677 "2020-09-16T19:55:26Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > It’s one thing to say “everybody remain calm, we’ll be fine” because behind the scenes your guys are working like mad to make sure everything really is fine. You do not say “everything’s fine”. That would be a lie. You say "We have " (or “are getting”) “the situation under control.” If everything is not fine, it is grossly irresponsible to say that it is to those who might be affected. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=182) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=184)