# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 187
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3738 "2020-09-18T15:11:12Z")
I vote for the latter. I think Putin is baiting trump to see how he will react to this. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3739 "2020-09-18T15:18:11Z")
Could be Putin giving Trump a chance to “act tough” right before the election. Putin may even back off, willing to look weak for a brief moment to help Trump win. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3740 "2020-09-18T15:18:29Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I’m thoroughly confused. Has Trump finally grown a pair and decided to stand up to Putin, is he simply unaware of what his own military is doing, or what? - > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I vote for the latter. > > I think Putin is baiting trump to see how he will react to this.- Or Putin told Trump to do this to make it look like Trump’s not Putin’s butt boy. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3741 "2020-09-18T15:46:24Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I’m thoroughly confused. Has Trump finally grown a pair and decided to stand up to Putin, is he simply unaware of what his own military is doing, or what? My uninformed WAG would be that maybe Putin owns trump so much that the Russians feel free to complain and call out things like this that used to be standard practice. Like a cowed dog who gets yelled at for making the slightest whimper, when it used to bark with impunity. Or, just as likely is this: > [@running\_coach](#): > > Or Putin told Trump to do this to make it look like Trump’s not Putin’s butt boy. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3742 "2020-09-18T15:47:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > By what authority does trump do this??? nAtiONaL SeCuRItY ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3743 "2020-09-18T16:28:20Z")
OK - this one is old but I must’ve missed it when it happened. It explains why Trumps hate mail-in voting - they are too stupid to do it right. > **[Trump Family Tried to Vote in NYC Election but Failed](https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-new-york-city-mayor-election-donald-trump-melania-trump-ivanka-trump-jared-746922)** > > The first family's absentee ballots didn't count for the November mayoral election in their hometown of New York City. Here's why. They tried but none of the votes counted. Donald got his birth date wrong, Melania got her address wrong (she put US for “county”) and Ivanka sent hers in late. It would be nice if all Republicans turn out to be this stupid. Just to repeat- the stable genius with the best memory ever screwed up HIS OWN DATE OF BIRTH on his mail-in ballot. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3744 "2020-09-18T16:36:28Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > OK - this one is old but I must’ve missed it when it happened. > It explains why Trumps hate mail-in voting - they are too stupid to do it right. - Remember during his campaign when he railed against people being registered to vote in more than one state and it came out that several members of his family and campaign officials were registered in more than one state? Since when can Trump vote in a NYC election? [President Trump moved from New York to Florida, here’s how presidential home security works: Analysis](https://abcnews.go.com/US/president-trump-moved-york-florida-presidential-home-security/story?id=66826563) [ > President Trump]([Donald Trump News & Videos - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/donald-trump)) recently announced that he was changing his residency from New York to Florida. “They haven’t treated me properly, I pay millions of taxes. Millions and millions of dollars in New York and they’ve never treated me, you know, since I became president, they just haven’t treated, I think the office with the kind of respect,” was his claim for moving. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3745 "2020-09-18T16:47:13Z")
That article is from 2017. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3746 "2020-09-18T17:15:56Z")
I’m pretty sure he did get any smarter since then, so… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3747 "2020-09-18T17:21:35Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > That article is from 2017. - Non-contact facepalm. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3748 "2020-09-18T19:03:06Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > The Guiteau Defense: Yes, I _shot_ President Garfield, but it was the doctors who actually _killed_ him. I’d actually agree with him. And it’s relevant to these modern times. The American Exceptionalist doctors KNEW that this whole “germ theory” was fake news. Everybody knew (they did their own research) that you didn’t need to wash your hands or use protective masks before doing surgery. PPE was one of those sissy boy beta cuck British things. Americans knew the truth! Remember, if Garfield had been shot today, he would have gone home the same day. His wound was barely outpatient surgery bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3749 "2020-09-18T19:31:05Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > That article is from 2017. That’s why I began the post with the words “This one is old” !! ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3750 "2020-09-18T19:42:32Z")
My comment was actually answering running\_coach, who missed that. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3751 "2020-09-18T23:01:35Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Actually, most of them fit the usual profile of undecided voters (people who prefer to just mind their own business and not pay attention to national issues until some national issue (e.g. access to health care, the pandemic) insists on paying attention to them). Yes, that’s the first category I laid out: “‘Low information voters’ aka dumbasses.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3752 "2020-09-18T23:54:39Z")
> **[Assange lawyer says Trump offered a deal to avoid extradition in exchange for...](https://www.sunjournal.com/2020/09/18/assange-lawyer-says-trump-offered-a-deal-to-avoid-extradition-in-exchange-for-documents/?rel=related)** > > The alleged “win-win” deal by President Donald Trump would allow Assange to avoid extradition to the U.S. if he revealed the source of a leak of documents from the Democratic Party ahead of the 2016 election. How much do you want to bet that the source of the leaks will “stunningly” be found to be Seth Rich, or the Ukrainians or Joe Biden himself. Anyone but the Russians. 🤢 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3753 "2020-09-19T00:10:10Z")
RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3754 "2020-09-19T00:12:47Z")
Being discussed here. > [@Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruth-bader-ginsberg-has-passed-away/920957/49): > > In one sense, I will defend my conservative buddy (I actually like octopus slight_smile). He’s not wrong in that if it comes down to this, to packing the courts, it’s a sad fucking commentary on “democracy.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3755 "2020-09-19T03:56:39Z")
Individual 1: Canada wants the border open. [Trump claims Canada wants U.S. border reopened | CTV News](https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trump-claims-canada-wants-u-s-border-reopened-1.5111112)? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3756 "2020-09-19T04:08:32Z")
Individual 1: The Governor of Virginia wants to take away your guns, and he wants to execute babies after they’re born. > **[Trump predicts victory in Virginia, slams ‘crazy’ Northam](https://thehill.com/homenews/news/517109-trump-predicts-victory-in-virginia-slams-crazy-northam/)** > > President Trump on Friday voiced optimism about his electoral prospects in Virginia come November while seeking to shore up his base with an attack against Gov. Ralph Northam (D), calling… ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3757 "2020-09-19T04:40:50Z")
Just for the record (and this should surprise no one), he’s lying about this. Canada does not want the border open until you get the pandemic under some semblance of control. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=186) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=188)