# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1: “If I lose to Biden, I don’t know what I’m going to do – I will never speak to you again. You’ll never see me again.”

Richard Nixon: “You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference.” Nov. 7, 1962, when he lost Ca. gov election.

Donald Trump: “You won’t have Trump to kick around anymore.”

BTW:

> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [Biden’s response:](https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1307491919384260609?s=20)

Hey, here’s an interesting tweet among the responses to that:

> [@](#):
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> Jim Dabakis @JimDabakis
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> Sep 18  
> BREAKING: A high-level Romney insider tells me Mitt Romney has committed to not confirming a Supreme Court nominee until after Inauguration Day 2021.

Ya think? (Who is this Jim Dabakis?)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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Trump Wins Nobel Peace Prize!

(sez Trump.)

[Trump Implies At Rally That He’s Already Won The Nobel Peace Prize](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-nobel-peace-prize-north-carolina-rally-041913673.html), Mary Papenfuss, HuffPost, Sept. 19, 2020.

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> President Donald Trump falsely declared at a North Carolina rally Saturday that he and his supporters are being honored with the Nobel Peace Prize.
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> Trump was nominated for the prize by a far-right Norwegian politician — but it’s highly unlikely he’ll get the award. Adolf Hitler was nominated for the peace prize in 1939 by a member of the Swedish parliament.
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> “You love your president, and your president gets honored,” Trump told the crowd in Fayetteville. “I’m not being honored, you’re being honored, with the Nobel Peace Prize for Israel, what we did with Israel.”

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1: “If I lose to Biden, I don’t know what I’m going to do – I will never speak to you again. You’ll never see me again.”  
> [https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1307468978994974720](https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1307468978994974720)

He says that like it’s a _bad_ thing?

Will he keep that promise at least?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3781 "2020-09-20T15:34:30Z")

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We come in peace, shoot to kill

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3782 "2020-09-20T15:38:12Z")

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The Forces of Darkness are running scared. If they really thought Trump would win, and they were in no danger of losing their grip on the Senate…they wouldn’t be doing this. They could piously proclaim their adherence to the McConnell Rule and avoid riling up the sane left. Totally no-brainer, which they are good at.

They’ve already got the batshit pizza tighty-righty vote, nothing more to harvest there. But as it stood, a lot of left-leaning Americans might shrug off going to the polls and dealing with all the shit. But Il Douche is determined to fire them up!

The sun will rise in the East, and he will open his big fat mouth, and thereby screw the pooch. Shoot himself in the dick, aiming for his foot, but, well…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3783 "2020-09-20T15:59:18Z")

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darn that darn cancel culture

> **[Trump coronavirus adviser threatens to sue Stanford researchers](https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/516960-trump-coronavirus-adviser-threatens-to-sue-stanford-researchers/)**
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> Scott Atlas, one of President Trump’s coronavirus advisers, is threatening to sue a group of Stanford doctors and researchers after they penned a public letter calling out “falsehoods” and “misrepr…

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> “You love your president, and your president gets honored,” Trump told the crowd in Fayetteville. “I’m not being honored, you’re being honored, with the Nobel Peace Prize for Israel, what we did with Israel.”

Other than a couple Jewish supporters, I’m having a tough time seeing how the rest of his base could give a flyng turtle’s fuck about this Isreali-UAE agreement covid distraction.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Georgia GOP’er Doug Collins (from the same Scumbag Row as Jordan and Nunes) had some warm sentiments for the recently-passed RBG, tweeting:
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> “RIP to the more than 30 million innocent babies that have been murdered during the decades that Ruth Bader Ginsburg defended pro-abortion laws,” Collins tweeted. “With @realDonaldTrump nominating a replacement that values human life, generations of unborn children have a chance to live.”
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> Class act.

I can think of a few more who should have been aborted.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> > [@Senegoid](#):
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> > “You love your president, and your president gets honored,” Trump told the crowd in Fayetteville. “I’m not being honored, you’re being honored, with the Nobel Peace Prize for Israel, what we did with Israel.”
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> Other than a couple Jewish supporters, I’m having a tough time seeing how the rest of his base could give a flyng turtle’s fuck about this Isreali-UAE agreement covid distraction.

Evangelicals could get all excited about this. They tend to be strong supporters of Israel. They see Israel, and specifically Jerusalem, as a holy land just waiting for Jesus to return and establish his kingdom there. They see the Jews as custodians of the land until then.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Couple of [twitter videos showing](https://twitter.com/anthonytilghman/status/1307360544559706113) a crowd of Profa MAGAts trying to impede traffic to an early-voting site in Fairfax VA. Blocking a roadway.

It took me a moment to parse “Profa.”

Your coinage?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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I just now got it, I think. Profa is the antonym of… right ?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3789 "2020-09-20T18:20:57Z")

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Yes, that’s the way I parsed it.

If I parsed YOU correctly, that is. 😉

Actually, I take that back. It’s the antonym of both antifa AND right.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3790 "2020-09-20T18:23:40Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Couple of [twitter videos showing](https://twitter.com/anthonytilghman/status/1307360544559706113) a crowd of Profa MAGAts trying to impede traffic to an early-voting site in Fairfax VA. Blocking a roadway.

In the New York Times today (as re-published at Yahoo):

[Trump Supporters Disrupt Early Voting in Virginia](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-supporters-disrupt-early-voting-151632226.html)

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> A group of Trump supporters waving campaign flags disrupted the second day of early voting in Fairfax, Virginia, on Saturday, chanting, “Four more years” as voters entered a polling location and at one point forming a line that voters had to walk around outside the site.
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> County election officials eventually were forced to open up a larger portion of the Fairfax County Government Center to allow voters to wait inside, away from the Trump enthusiasts.
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> Election officials said that the group stayed about 100 feet from the entrance to the building and, contrary to posts on social media, were not directly blocking access to the building. But they acknowledged that some voters and polling staff members felt intimidated by what some saw as protesters.

Virginia law requires them to stay 40 feet away from polling places. They were about 100 feet away.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Your coinage?

No, not my coinage. I believe the originator (who I am aware of) would be happy to say it is public-domain.

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> We come in peace, shoot to kill

It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it.

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Evangelicals could get all excited about this. They tend to be strong supporters of Israel. They see Israel, and specifically Jerusalem, as a holy land just waiting for Jesus to return and establish his kingdom there. They see the Jews as custodians of the land until then.

Quite a few of them also view the Jews as acceptable cannon-fodder in their long-for Armageddon, they are eager for a conflict that will guarantee _billions_ of deaths.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3794 "2020-09-20T21:44:02Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> > [@eschereal](#):
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> > Couple of [twitter videos showing](https://twitter.com/anthonytilghman/status/1307360544559706113) a crowd of Profa MAGAts trying to impede traffic to an early-voting site in Fairfax VA. Blocking a roadway.
> 
> In the New York Times today (as re-published at Yahoo):
> 
> [Trump Supporters Disrupt Early Voting in Virginia](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-supporters-disrupt-early-voting-151632226.html)
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> > [@](#):
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> > A group of Trump supporters waving campaign flags disrupted the second day of early voting in Fairfax, Virginia, on Saturday, chanting, “Four more years” as voters entered a polling location and at one point forming a line that voters had to walk around outside the site.
> > 
> > County election officials eventually were forced to open up a larger portion of the Fairfax County Government Center to allow voters to wait inside, away from the Trump enthusiasts.
> > 
> > Election officials said that the group stayed about 100 feet from the entrance to the building and, contrary to posts on social media, were not directly blocking access to the building. But they acknowledged that some voters and polling staff members felt intimidated by what some saw as protesters.
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> Virginia law requires them to stay 40 feet away from polling places. They were about 100 feet away.

There are also laws about impeding voters going to the polls regardless of distance which they certainly seemed to violating if voters needed escorts to get past them and another part of the building with the polls had to be opened up to allow people to get to the ballots.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3795 "2020-09-20T21:52:15Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> There are also laws about impeding voters going to the polls regardless of distance which they certainly seemed to violating if voters needed escorts to get past them and another part of the building with the polls had to be opened up to allow people to get to the ballots.

The problem is, anything is legal, as long as you don’t get caught. If the local PD supports the cause of their demonstration (ShitGibbon likes the police), they can find themselves too busy doing other things at the time to make it to the call. Police decide what is legal and what is not.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3796 "2020-09-20T22:01:35Z")

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I am curious as to how it plays out if these protesters are deemed an illegal assembly and dispersed, as the police like to do to democratic protesters.

If they start firing tear gas and rubber bullets, will that disrupt the people waiting to vote?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3797 "2020-09-20T23:25:30Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> If they start firing tear gas and rubber bullets, will that disrupt the people waiting to vote?

I am not convinced that they would be able to distinguish demonstrators from voters and would end up gassing and strafing everyone. Especially those nasty, whiny (fake!) press people.

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