# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/366 "2020-06-29T18:47:13Z")
1. Go golfing 2. Deny you were golfing 3. Accuse Obama of golfing ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/367 "2020-06-29T20:11:08Z")
> **[Congress Unites To Demand Answers From Trump On Russian Bounties In Afghanistan](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/29/884611485/congress-unites-to-demand-answers-from-trump-on-russian-bounties-in-afghanistan?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)** > > Lawmakers in both parties demand to learn more from the Trump administration after press reports suggested that Russian operatives have paid Afghan insurgents to target U.S. forces. What? Something has finally gotten the Pubs’ attention? > Members of Congress in both parties demanded answers on Monday about [reported bounties paid by Russian operatives](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/28/884407572/trump-denies-briefing-on-russian-bounties-reportedly-placed-on-u-s-troops) to Afghan insurgents for targeting American troops. > > The stories appeared to have taken even the most senior lawmakers off guard, and they said they wanted briefings soon from the Defense Department and the intelligence community. > > “I think it is absolutely essential that we get the information and be able to judge its credibility,” said Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee. > … > Another top House lawmaker demanding more information was[Rep. Liz Cheney](https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1277200077724037122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1277200077724037122&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flegacy.npr.org%2Ftemplates%2Fpreview%2FtwitterPreview.php%3FtweetId%3D1277200077724037122%26hideMedia%3Dtrue) of Wyoming, Republicans’ No. 3 leader in the chamber. > … Long article. Not paywalled. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/368 "2020-06-29T20:31:44Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > **Losers are inevitably doomed by their own negativity, of which germs are a physical form. Infection happens to some people because they are natural losers**. This mentality defines not only Trump but some of his most ardent supporters, like the ones who don’t wear masks. They believe that the virus is just some sort of challenge to manhood or some sort of Biblical test that is to be overcome by the true believers of Lord Testosterone. But this is also the thinking that underlines the thoughts of America’s modern patricians. Social Darwinism shapes their views of modern capitalism and what economics should be, essentially framing economics not as a product of utilitarianism but rather as a game of winners and losers, predators and prey. Trump screwed his contractors and his creditors, and whereas many of us are outraged at the lack of transparency, his supporters rationalize it on the grounds that capitalism, life itself, is little more than blood sport. If they were dumb enough to lend him the money or trust him to be paid, that’s just their tough shit. Shoulda done their due diligence and found someone more trustworthy, I guess. They identify with the bully over the runt, the con-artist over the one getting conned – unless they are the victims, of course. Then they scream bloody murder. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/369 "2020-06-29T20:41:37Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What? Something has finally gotten the Pubs’ attention? Yeah. The polls, showing they gotta do something to save their phony-baloney jobs. _Harrumph!_ ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/370 "2020-06-29T21:22:04Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > 1. Go golfing > 2. Deny you were golfing > 3. Accuse Obama of golfing We should tell him that Obama gets to golf whenever he wants to. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/371 "2020-06-29T21:34:53Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > We should tell him that Obama gets to golf whenever he wants to. Without needing any cover stories. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/372 "2020-06-29T21:39:33Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > We should tell him that Obama gets to golf whenever he wants to. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > Without needing any cover stories Not to mention, he can go windsurfing. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/373 "2020-06-29T21:44:14Z")
And he doesn’t need any Secret Service protection. In fact, Obama laughs at people who think they do. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/374 "2020-06-30T00:38:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > - Go golfing > - Deny you were golfing > - Accuse Obama of golfing Cheat at golfing… ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/375 "2020-06-30T02:29:35Z")
Speaking of Trump going golfing . . . Just saw this on Yahoo News, and damn knocked me off of my chair. Y’all heard, of course, about that Trump tweet of the golf cart parade with the people shouting “White Power” that K-Lee McInane said the prez tweeted because he didn’t hear the “White Power” part. Then there was this (bold added by me): [Trump’s ‘white power’ retweet set off ‘five alarm fire’ in White House](https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-white-power-retweet-set-011126104.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump set off a “five-alarm fire” in the White House on Sunday morning after he retweeted a video of one of his supporters saying “white power,” according to two White House officials. > > The video remained on the president’s Twitter page, where he has 82 million followers, for more than three hours because White House officials couldn’t reach him to ask him to delete it, the two officials said. The president was at his golf club in Virginia and had put his phone down, the officials said. Excuse me a moment while I scrape myself up off the floor and re-assemble several disjointed bones. He fucking put his phone down and couldn’t be reached for three fucking hours! Please somebody, tell me I’m not reading that right. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/376 "2020-06-30T02:48:12Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > He fucking put his phone down and couldn’t be reached for three fucking hours! Well, the economy is in shambles, there is racial tension and an epidemic. From Trumps’ point of view, what the hell else could go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/377 "2020-06-30T02:50:30Z")
> **[Flu virus with 'pandemic potential' found in China](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53218704.amp)** > > The new strain, scientists say, is carried by pigs but can infect humans and requires close monitoring. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/378 "2020-06-30T02:54:19Z")
Time to off the pigs! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/379 "2020-06-30T02:59:22Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Excuse me a moment while I scrape myself up off the floor and re-assemble several disjointed bones. He fucking put his phone down and couldn’t be reached for three fucking hours! > > Please somebody, tell me I’m not reading that right. Let me get this straight: even if Trump had turned off his phone, no one could get a message to him through his Secret Service detail? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/380 "2020-06-30T03:08:36Z")
We’re talking that finely tuned, smooth running White House machine? At least the revolving door is working. Probably a bunch of Young Republican interns governing America for a few hours. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/381 "2020-06-30T03:54:59Z")
porchina virus? china swina flu? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/382 "2020-06-30T04:52:38Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Let me get this straight: even if Trump had turned off his phone, no one could get a message to him through his Secret Service detail? Considering the fact that Trump is on his third Secret Service Director, might there be a chance the USSS has been corrupted to the point that the agents assigned to him serve him and not the office of the Presidency itself? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/383 "2020-06-30T05:45:44Z")
Considering that, aside from breaking the government (and even that, to some extent), everything he does he fucks up, not having him accessible seems like a concern of the lowest order. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/384 "2020-06-30T06:06:14Z")
Yesl One of those situations that’s actually a positive. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/385 "2020-06-30T07:32:54Z")
Iran has issued an arrest warrant for President Trump. > **[Iran Issues Arrest Warrants for Trump and 35 Others in Suleimani Killing...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/world/middleeast/iran-trump-arrest-warrant-interpol.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur)** > > A Tehran prosecutor said that Iran had asked for international help in detaining people involved in the drone strike that killed the powerful general. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=20)