# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 190
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3798 "2020-09-21T00:58:31Z")
yeah especially that nasty Yamiche Alcindor. _GRRRRRRR!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3799 "2020-09-21T01:56:18Z")
That’s all kinds of awesome (Biden’s response to Trump’s promise to STFU once he’d booted out). Zen. Jujitsu. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3800 "2020-09-21T03:40:30Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > > [@k9bfriender](#): > > > > If they start firing tear gas and rubber bullets, will that disrupt the people waiting to vote? > > I am not convinced that they would be able to distinguish demonstrators from voters and would end up gassing and strafing everyone. Especially those nasty, whiny (fake!) press people. Well, unless the voter-intimidating protesters turn out is full-dress camo with all the military gear and assault rifles, which apparently they did not – this time. And yes, of course, it will be very hard for police to deal with the obstructors in just about any way without creating even greater pandemonium, especially if they start firing gas, rubber bullets, flash-bangs, real bullets, or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3801 "2020-09-21T04:14:29Z")
Individual 1 says $5 billion of the sale of Tik Tok will go towards his 1776 Project reeducation program. > **[TikTok Owner Says It Wasn't Aware Deal Included $5 Billion 'Education Fund'](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tik-tok-education-fund-sale_n_5f67a6dec5b6de79b676d649)** > > ByteDance on Sunday said it was unaware of President Trump's plan to use $5 billion from the company's sale to fund so-called "patriotic education" in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3802 "2020-09-21T04:26:42Z")
Why the hell would _he_ get any of the money? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3803 "2020-09-21T04:28:07Z")
If he didn’t expect a cut, he wouldn’t be doing this. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3804 "2020-09-21T05:11:32Z")
“Re-education”? Are there “camps” involved? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3805 "2020-09-21T10:37:33Z")
Not for that - but I could see combining the current ~~concentration camps~~ detention centers where immigrants are currently warehoused with ~~mandatory indoctrination~~ education about Amerika. As for the rest of the populace… not yet, but if he could find a way to force it down our throats, oh yes he would. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3806 "2020-09-21T11:21:00Z")
[“There will be no oil. There will be no God. There will be no guns.”](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-campaign-rally-biden-god-religion-election-north-carolina-2020-9?r=US&IR=T) First Trump claims Biden will “hurt God” and now apparently Biden will somehow destroy or abolish God. Frankly, if Biden is that powerful I don’t think we can afford to anger him by voting for someone else. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3807 "2020-09-21T11:44:08Z")
Heh. Sleepy, weak, ineffective, loser Joe…is more powerful than God. What is this, The Rutles? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3808 "2020-09-21T12:51:28Z")
> [@Trump](#): > > “There will be no oil. There will be no God. There will be no guns.” God, guns and oil. I believe there’s a slogan in there somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3809 "2020-09-21T13:09:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > There are also laws about impeding voters going to the polls regardless of distance which they certainly seemed to violating if voters needed escorts to get past them and another part of the building with the polls had to be opened up to allow people to get to the ballots. But it is by no means clear that voters _ **needed** _ escorts to get past the protesters. Nor does the story say that the reason for opening another part of the building was “to allow people to get to the ballots.” Nor is there any evidence in the story that they were impeding voters. The videos I’ve seen also don’t make it appear as if they were blocking access. These people might be assholes—the very fact that they support Trump is pretty good evidence of that—but they were well outside the distance required by law, and nowhere in the story does it say that they were harassing voters or preventing access to polling place. The fact that some voters might have felt uncomfortable due to the presence of the protesters doesn’t mean that the protesters were doing anything wrong. And, as the story says, the extra space was opened up inside simply “to allow voters to wait inside, away from the Trump enthusiasts.” I’m no hero, no fighter, and no seeker of unnecessary confrontation, but if I were a voter at that polling place, I would have walked straight past them and told them that I was about to cast one of the millions of ballots that would, hopefully, remove their orange clown from the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3810 "2020-09-21T13:21:50Z")
I would have walked past them, but I don’t tell anyone who I am going to vote for. With a bunch of demonstrators making noise that strikes me as poor judgement. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3811 "2020-09-21T13:38:38Z")
(uncited - saw this on PBS Newshour last night, but still yet to be posted online) (so far only Isreali papers are sources) In the bid to further gang up on Iran (the main reason, IMO, for the Israeli-UAE agreement - to further mobilize force against Iran) Pompeo moved to reinstate sanctions Saturday night against Iran, despite a joint statement the next morning from France, the UK and Germany that the US has no authority to do so after withdrawing from the Iran Deal in 2018. The UN is expected not to reinstate the sanctions. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3812 "2020-09-21T13:54:36Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I would have walked past them, but I don’t tell anyone who I am going to vote for. With a bunch of demonstrators making noise that strikes me as poor judgement. It’s only poor judgment if you really believe that an expression of political difference will lead to violence. My default is to assume that the vast majority of protesters are doing just that: protesting. I don’t assume that all protesters, whether those I support or those I oppose, are looking for a violent confrontation. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3813 "2020-09-21T13:58:25Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I don’t assume that all protesters, whether those I support or those I oppose, are looking for a violent confrontation. I assume that there is a greater risk of violence when the leader they support actively encourages those protesters to be violent. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3814 "2020-09-21T14:10:02Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > It’s only poor judgment if you really believe that an expression of political difference will lead to violence. The fact you have the position you do makes me think that you have never been in the minority, or in the position of facing a crowd that is revving themselves up and is very much against your position. Trump encourages violence. Many of his followers walk around heavily armed and brag about that. Sooner or later this is going to end in blood on the ground and I don’t want to be there when it happens. I am a small, middle-aged woman. If things do get physical I’m f\*\*\*ed. I view avoiding Trumpists attempting to block voters much as I view avoiding dark alleys - most of the time you can get away with it, but when you can’t the costs are not worth the risk. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3815 "2020-09-21T14:30:14Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I would have walked past them, but I don’t tell anyone who I am going to vote for. With a bunch of demonstrators making noise that strikes me as poor judgement. I’m not sure what the protest was about. Is the right against _voting_ now? (I thought they just didn’t want mail in voting except by people like the President and his family) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3816 "2020-09-21T14:42:12Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > In the bid to further gang up on Iran (the main reason, IMO, for the Israeli-UAE agreement - to further mobilize force against Iran) Pompeo moved to reinstate sanctions Saturday night against Iran, despite a joint statement the next morning from France, the UK and Germany that the US has no authority to do so after withdrawing from the Iran Deal in 2018. The UN is expected not to reinstate the sanctions. [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/20/iran-sanctions-united-nations-trump-419086](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/20/iran-sanctions-united-nations-trump-419086) > [T]he overwhelming majority of members in the 15-nation council call the U.S. action **illegal** because President Donald Trump pulled the United States out of the plan in 2018. (bolding mine) Trump Administration: “Just add it to the pile.” (sarcasm, too) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3817 "2020-09-21T14:52:03Z")
Project much? I guess now we know for certain that someone is giving Trump a great big fat shot of something (Dexedrine,maybe?) in his ass every couple of hours in order to keep him coherent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=189) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=191)