# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 194
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3878 "2020-09-23T14:15:30Z")
They have no power to block anything. They can’t just create power they don’t have. A little off topic, but this is the one caution I have against woke politics. Nothing wrong with being more woke than we were yesterday, but everyone from all factions within the Democratic party need to understand that it’s power that they need first and most. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3879 "2020-09-23T14:39:47Z")
Trump keeps calling Biden ‘Sleepy Joe’. Why isn’t Biden promoting the video showing Trump falling asleep during the Queen’s speech, and calling Trump ‘Sleepy Don’? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3880 "2020-09-23T15:36:59Z")
Pretty much everything Trump and his supporters accuse someone of applies to him directly and far more appropriately, from calling Hillary “Crooked” and Ted Cruz “Lyin’” to the recent accusations that Biden is taking Adderall. Trump is far more incoherent and confused than Biden, he has much greater ties to China than Biden, he’s been considerably more creepy to women - especially underaged ones - than Biden and a stronger connection to Epstein than Clinton, he’s “hidden in the basement” (unlike Biden), he’s screwed up national mask policy on CoVID (unlike Biden who isn’t actually president), and he’s completely in bed with Russia (unlike Biden). ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3881 "2020-09-23T16:35:48Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > …and he’s completely in bed with Russia (unlike Biden). And you don’t wanna know what they did to that bed. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3882 "2020-09-23T17:15:38Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Why isn’t Biden promoting the video showing Trump falling asleep during the Queen’s speech, and calling Trump ‘Sleepy Don’? Because you do not win by making the other guy the focus. It is not about him, it is about elect me. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3883 "2020-09-23T17:42:07Z")
I’m not going to watch the debate. I will check for sound bites afterwards on MSNBC and fox. I fear there will be fisticuffs. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3884 "2020-09-23T17:46:12Z")
Hopefully Joe will be wearing a cup. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3885 "2020-09-23T17:47:24Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Hopefully Joe will be wearing a cup. - Hopefully, Trump will wear a jockstrap. On his head. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3886 "2020-09-23T18:00:45Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Trump keeps calling Biden ‘Sleepy Joe’. Why isn’t Biden promoting the video showing Trump falling asleep during the Queen’s speech, and calling Trump ‘Sleepy Don’? Because Biden isn’t a six-year-old. While I definitely think he should take the gloves off, tactics like this aren’t going to flip anyone who’s in Trump’s base. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3887 "2020-09-23T18:09:05Z")
Individual 1 is reaching out to state legislators in states that have a majority of Republican legislators, talking about having them choose their own slate of electors if Biden wins their state. > **[Trump Reportedly Has a Backup Plan to Hold Onto the White House Even If He...](https://secondnexus.com/donald-trump-loyal-electors-atlantic)** > > Terrifying. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3888 "2020-09-23T18:18:27Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Pretty much everything Trump and his supporters accuse someone of applies to him directly and far more appropriately, from calling Hillary “Crooked” and Ted Cruz “Lyin’” to the recent accusations that Biden is taking Adderall. Trump is far more incoherent and confused than Biden, he has much greater ties to China than Biden, he’s been considerably more creepy to women - especially underaged ones - than Biden and a stronger connection to Epstein than Clinton, he’s “hidden in the basement” (unlike Biden), he’s screwed up national mask policy on CoVID (unlike Biden who isn’t actually president), and he’s completely in bed with Russia (unlike Biden)… Trump has more projection than a multi-plex IMAX theatre. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3889 "2020-09-23T18:21:50Z")
In person voting here starts Oct. 6th. The way trump keeps acting (talking), you guys may convince me to vote for Biden yet. Yes, I want to vote Jorgenson, but my state is important this time. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3890 "2020-09-23T18:27:43Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > While I definitely think he should take the gloves off, tactics like this aren’t going to flip anyone who’s in Trump’s base. NOTHING will flip ANYONE in Trump’s base. His base cannot be flipped. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3891 "2020-09-23T18:46:07Z")
Can they be flushed? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3892 "2020-09-23T18:49:56Z")
Not that I don’t think it’s possible, but I’ma need something more substantial than a website called “Second Nexus” that’s run by George Takei. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3893 "2020-09-23T18:53:41Z")
So you didn’t notice that the article references a tweet from a staff writer at Atlantic magazine? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3894 "2020-09-23T18:57:52Z")
A tweet? Uh, I’ll believe it when it’s actually reported in a legitimate news publication. Until then, it’s just a tweet being reported by a site that has “Oh Myyyyy!” at the top of it. Like I said, I’m not saying it’s not true. But I’m not believing it is either until something more substantial comes out. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3895 "2020-09-23T19:04:02Z")
**When asked by the Atlantic if the reported plans were true, the Trump campaign Deputy Press Secretary Thea McDonald did not deny them:** > _“It’s outrageous that President Trump and his team are being villainized for upholding the rule of law and transparently fighting for a free and fair election. The mainstream media are giving the Democrats a free pass for their attempts to completely uproot the system and throw our election into chaos.”_ Republican party leaders in the swing state of Pennsylvania cited in the article said they’ve already floated loyal electors to the President’s people. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3896 "2020-09-23T19:07:00Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > A tweet? Uh, I’ll believe it when it’s actually reported in a legitimate news publication. Until then, it’s just a tweet being reported by a site that has “Oh Myyyyy!” at the top of it. > > Like I said, I’m not saying it’s not true. But I’m not believing it is either until something more substantial comes out. Can’t be bothered to read, huh? There’s a link direct to an Atlantic article. > **[The Election That Could Break America](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/)** > > If the vote is close, Donald Trump could easily throw the election into chaos and subvert the result. Who will stop him? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/3897 "2020-09-23T19:09:00Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > **Deputy Press Secretary Thea McDonald did not deny them:** > > > _“It’s outrageous that President Trump and his team are being villainized for upholding the rule of law and transparently fighting for a free and fair election. The mainstream media are giving the Democrats a free pass for their attempts to completely uproot the system and throw our election into chaos.”_ Good Og that is hilarious. The bulb in that project must be on the verge of popping. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=193) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=195)