# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4118 "2020-09-29T03:35:42Z")

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Missed edit window and I just wanted to flag something in the link I just posted -  
“A spokesman for the Trump campaign, Tim Murtaugh, blamed Democrats and RINO’s for the incident”. Seriously.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4119 "2020-09-29T03:36:19Z")

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> [@anny\_m](#):
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> You can vote early in Michigan in person. I believe early “in person” voting has already started.

Yes and no. Yes, absentee ballots have gone out, and you can vote “in-person” at your clerk’s office. But it’s still treated as an absentee ballot, and it can’t be opened or tabulated until polls open on election day.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4120 "2020-09-29T04:20:46Z")

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Well, I actually heard the argument made today that Trump’s avoidance of taxes was Joe Biden’s fault, so at least they’re consistent.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4121 "2020-09-29T07:33:59Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> The difference in the trump and Biden campaigns’ statements in response to Parscale’s breakdown is entirely unsurprising:
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> [https://twitter.com/RumpoleBayou/status/1310397248367398913?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1310397248367398913|twgr^share\_3&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2020%2F09%2Ftrump-campaign-blames-dems-for-ex-campaign-manager-parscales-reported-self-harm-threat%2F](https://twitter.com/RumpoleBayou/status/1310397248367398913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1310397248367398913%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2020%2F09%2Ftrump-campaign-blames-dems-for-ex-campaign-manager-parscales-reported-self-harm-threat%2F)

I spotted this tweet among the responses, which I found amusing. I may be stealing this:

> <https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1310531559657803776>

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4122 "2020-09-29T08:02:33Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Re: Fox News – the NY Times has an article today about the guy who runs their “decision desk”…the one who makes the call as to who won a state on Election Day…and therefore, the bulwark against election day insanity. His name is Arnon Mishkin, and he is described as a data-driven nerd who is impervious to Fox internal pressure and answers to no one. It’s the most hopeful thing I’ve read in weeks.

Therefore let’s also be hopeful, for his sake, that he keeps his resume up to date.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4123 "2020-09-29T10:10:12Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Here’s more detail. It’s pretty bad. 10 guns in the house, he’d apparently pulled one on her. He hit her at least once, she fled in her bathrobe and some realtors showing a nearby house called the cops.
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> [https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article246062390.html](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article246062390.html)
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> ETA: They have body cam video in that link!

Yep. And Parscale down on the ground with cops on top of him yelling “I didn’t do anything! I didn’t do anything!” But he’s White so no one kneeled on his neck.

> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> “A spokesman for the Trump campaign, Tim Murtaugh, blamed Democrats and RINO’s for the incident”. Seriously.

Yep. Any day now they’re going to institute a Five Minutes Hate. Can’t use the name “Goldstein” because they officially like Jewish people so they’re probably still trying to choose between “Hilary”, “Obama”, and “Biden”.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4124 "2020-09-29T11:36:15Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I think that’s really the fear that I have: the danger isn’t that they’re going to come up with a brilliant trick play that we didn’t see coming. The danger is what we can see coming but choose not to take as seriously as we should, and the real ‘strategy’ is to create distortion, noise, confusion. The goal isn’t to use the military to take over Biden’s campaign headquarters, all media outlets, and declare martial law; it’s to create enough confusion and doubt to start using legitimate institutions and mechanisms in illegitimate ways - for the purposes of legitimizing illegitimate actions by the president and his supporters. It’s to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

Repeated. for emphasis.

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> October Surprise? October is going to be like a freaking Advent calendar, with a little door opening and releasing a new tidbit every day.

Love it.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4126 "2020-09-29T11:42:56Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Missed edit window and I just wanted to flag something in the link I just posted -  
> “A spokesman for the Trump campaign, Tim Murtaugh, blamed Democrats and RINO’s for the incident”. Seriously.

It was those ninja Obummer-loving Democrats who broke into his house and left all those guns just to make ~~him~~ trump look bad. Then they knocked his wife around because, you know…um…Biden told them to. Yeah. That’s the ticket.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4127 "2020-09-29T12:15:31Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I spotted this tweet among the responses, which I found amusing. I may be stealing this:

I love that old Russian saying. I’m totally stealing that too!

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4128 "2020-09-29T13:50:13Z")

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Here’s a scary article which brings up several questions:

- Is the love gone between trump and Putin? Breakups can get ugly.
- Is the trump admin pursuing this without trump really knowing what’s going on?
- Is this some kind of wink-wink feint designed to make the trump admin look tough on Russia just before the election?

> **[Trump administration orders assessment on bolstering nuclear warheads as...](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/28/trump-russia-nuclear-deal-talks-422736)**
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> U.S. diplomats are trying to play hardball with Russia in negotiations over whether to extend New START.

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Yep. Any day now they’re going to institute a Five Minutes Hate. Can’t use the name “Goldstein” because they officially like Jewish people so they’re probably still trying to choose between **“Hilary”, “Obama”, and “Biden”**.

Hillobamden, Our New Enemy of the People.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4130 "2020-09-29T15:42:18Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> October is going to be like a freaking Advent calendar, with a little door opening and releasing a new tidbit every day.

[I made it mem-able](https://i.imgur.com/dAtNIjW.jpg).

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> > October is going to be like a freaking Advent calendar, with a little door opening and releasing a new tidbit every day.
> 
> [I made it mem-able](https://i.imgur.com/dAtNIjW.jpg). -

I am disappoint. I was picturing an actual advent-style calendar of Trump’s face. Each day, you tear off the door and by Election Day, he’s all gone.

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Hillobamden, Our New Enemy of the People.

We’ve always been at war with Hillobamden.

(Also, Brawndo’s got electrolytes.)

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> (Also, Brawndo’s got electrolytes.)

It’s what Republicans crave!

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Meh. Find an artist. (Preferably one that actually knows what an Advent calendar looks like; 'cause the last ones I saw were in my high school German class.)

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4135 "2020-09-29T18:20:17Z")

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The Individual 1 campaign wants to examine Biden’s ears at the debate to make sure he doesn’t have a microphone feeding him the answers.

> **[Trump campaign wants to examine Biden’s ears for electronic device before...](https://thehill.com/campaign-issues/518736-trump-campaign-wants-to-examine-bidens-ears-for-electronic-device-during/)**
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> President Trump’s campaign wants to have a third party examine both his and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s ears for electronic devices before Tuesday night’s presiden…

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Next he’ll ask for a strip search

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It was those ninja Obummer-loving Democrats who broke into his house and left all those guns just to make ~~him~~ trump look bad. Then they knocked his wife around because, you know…um…Biden told them to. Yeah. That’s the ticket.

Not Biden – Soros _paid_ them to.

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