# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 213
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4258 "2020-10-02T07:20:49Z")
Part of me is unsurprised that Trump may have contracted the coronavirus, given his callous disregard for masks and basic safety rules throughout the pandemic. And part of me wonders if he’s really got it, or whether falsely claiming to have it gives him an excuse to hide for two weeks and then emerge and brag about how it was no big deal and look at how strong and healthy he is! Either way - it is what it is. Do what you gotta do, Donald. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4259 "2020-10-02T07:33:43Z")
Trump knew Wednesday night that Hope had covid. He flew to Bedminster for a fundraiser Thursday. One would presume that Kayleigh McEnany, who had been in contact with Hope, also knew this and held a press conference Thursday morning. > **[Trump National Bedminster fundraiser held on Thursday -- after Hope Hicks...](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump-national-bedminster-fundraiser-held-on-thursday-after-hope-hicks-tested-positive-for-19-report/)** > > President Donald Trump may have risked infecting his own supporters with coronavirus on Thursday by withholding from the public the news that senior advisor Hope Hicks had tested positive for COVID-19. "Hope Hicks, one of President Trump’s most... _May_ have risked his supporters? Everyone he came in contact with Thursday should be pissed as shit at him. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4260 "2020-10-02T09:27:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > . . . claiming to have it gives him an excuse to hide for two weeks and then emerge and brag about how it was no big deal and look at how strong and healthy he is! This. He’ll be able to ‘prove’ that Covid is no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4261 "2020-10-02T09:40:04Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > This. He’ll be able to ‘prove’ that Covid is no big deal. You’re giving him too much credit. He doesn’t think that beating the disease makes him look tough, he thinks having the disease makes him weak. He’s only admitting to having it because it’s going to become impossible for him to deny having it. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4262 "2020-10-02T09:52:55Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > The First Lady also expressed frustration with the annual White House Christmas celebration. “Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a f— about Christmas stuff and decoration? ♫ ♩ ♪ ♬ You’re a mean one, Mrs. Grinch… ♫ ♪ ♬ ♩ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4263 "2020-10-02T09:53:44Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Trump has tested positive for Covid. Can you catch the virus from ass-kissing? Asking for a friend… ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4264 "2020-10-02T12:16:08Z")
I don’t wish anyone harm from Covid, even trump, but like many have already said, I’m concerned that showing no or very mild symptoms will cause him to claim that it’s not serious, no worse than a mild flu, and have him double down on stonewalling virus mitigation efforts. I’m also concerned for Biden because with all trump’s loud debate bloviating I’m sure there were tons of airborne particles flying around there. Also I’m concerned this might give trump a sympathy vote bump. Of course trump is the poster boy for the saying “you reap what you sow” but that irony will be lost on a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4265 "2020-10-02T15:32:50Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Does this turd ever acknowledge he has a minor son actually living with him? But COVID doesn’t affect kids. Really. Almost nobody gets it. At least that’s what the CFSG says. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4266 "2020-10-02T15:46:05Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Can you catch the virus from ass-kissing? Pence is still fine, so there you go - pretty good proof. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4267 "2020-10-02T16:30:25Z")
I guess Kimberley Guilfoyle is Individual 1 Administration adjacent. She got fired from Fox after they shelled out $4 million to ol’ Kim’s assistant after she accused Kim of sexual harassment. > **[Fox News Quietly Paid Kimberly Guilfoyle Accuser Over Sexual Misconduct...](https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-quietly-paid-kimberly-guilfoyle-accuser-sexual-harassment-024414886.html)** > > One of the ex-host's assistants sent executives a confidential draft complaint in 2018 accusing Guilfoyle of sexual harassment, according to The New Yorker. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4268 "2020-10-02T16:41:06Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > > Can you catch the virus from ass-kissing? > > Pence is still fine, so there you go - pretty good proof. His wife doesn’t put the kibosh on that? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4269 "2020-10-02T17:25:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I guess Kimberley Guilfoyle is Individual 1 Administration adjacent. > She got fired from Fox after they shelled out $4 million to ol’ Kim’s assistant after she accused Kim of sexual harassment. > [Fox News Quietly Paid Kimberly Guilfoyle Accuser Over Sexual Misconduct Claims: Report](https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/fox-news-quietly-paid-kimberly-guilfoyle-accuser-sexual-harassment-024414886.html) >   Cripes, she sounds like she fits right in with the trump clan - that same sense of “rules don’t apply to me”. > [HuffPost first reported in 2018](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kimberly-guilfoyle-misconduct-allegations-fox-news_n_5b5a6064e4b0b15aba96f4de?dm=)that Guilfoyle’s departure from the network was not voluntary and that sources said she was terminated following an internal investigation into allegations of inappropriate behavior, such as sexual misconduct. Six sources said that Guilfoyle would show colleagues personal photographs of male genitalia (and identify whose genitals they were), regularly discussed sexual matters at work and would be emotionally abusive toward hair and makeup artists and support staff. > [The New Yorker’s] [Mayer’s article detailing the former assistant’s draft complaint](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-history-of-kimberly-guilfoyles-departure-from-fox?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&mbid=social_twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_brand=tny) corroborates HuffPost’s earlier reporting, including that the woman was frequently subjected to degrading, abusive and sexually inappropriate behaviors, such as being shown lewd photographs of men with whom Guilfoyle had sexual relations. > > Other instances Mayer cites from the draft complaint are that the assistant was required to work at Guilfoyle’s New York apartment while the network host walked around naked, was forced to listen to Guilfoyle speak incessantly about her sex life, was ordered to give Guilfoyle a thigh massage and was told to submit to a Fox employee’s sexual demands. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4270 "2020-10-02T17:44:36Z")
I’m sure this was covered already, but it’s crazy how 18 hours ago, this story was beginning to percolate into a major scandal in its own right. > **[Trump Campaign Adviser Brad Parscale Steps Down After Arrest During Domestic...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/trump-campaign-adviser-brad-parscale-steps-down-resigns-domestic-abuse-police.html)** > > Parscale said he’s leaving the campaign because of the “overwhelming stress.” I found another BI story (that was unfortunately paywalled) indicating that Parscale was under threat of federal prosecution, apparently for concealing financial activity on Trump’s campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4271 "2020-10-02T18:18:02Z")
I’ve been reading that the Individual 1 campaign is terrified that Parscale is going to start spilling campaign secrets. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4272 "2020-10-02T18:28:20Z")
By “secrets,” they probably mean dirty tricks that, if revealed, could be foiled by Biden’s team. I think they’re far past the point of giving a toss about any new scandalous information that comes out - shame is not a thing. They’re afraid Parscale is going to go into the vault and release the Colonel’s recipe. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4273 "2020-10-02T19:36:45Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I’ve been reading that the Individual 1 campaign is terrified that Parscale is going to start spilling campaign secrets. I can hardly wait to read his book. /s That’s if he doesn’t end up hanging in his cell/ward/closet. /darkness off ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4274 "2020-10-02T19:41:16Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I can hardly wait to read his book. /s > > That’s if he doesn’t end up hanging in his cell/ward/closet. /darkness off. Along with “Oh, cameras? Ya, they stopped working yesterday. Checks by the guards? Oh dear, they seemed to have gone on extended breaks. Certainly not our policy. They will be disciplined \” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4275 "2020-10-02T20:09:07Z")
A federal judge is threatening to hold Wilbur Ross in contempt for ignoring her ruling that the census count deadline must be extended. > **[Judge Threatens Wilbur Ross With Contempt | Law & Crime](https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/this-must-stop-federal-judge-threatens-to-hold-wilbur-ross-in-contempt-if-defiance-of-court-order-happens-again/)** > > A federal judge in California on Thursday threatened to hold U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross in contempt over the Census Bureau’s “repeated violations” of the court’s order regarding the target date for completing 2020 Census data collection. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4276 "2020-10-02T20:34:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A federal judge is threatening to hold Wilbur Ross in contempt for ignoring her ruling that the census count deadline must be extended. And what, in practice, will that mean? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4277 "2020-10-02T21:19:45Z")
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