# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/426 "2020-07-01T20:03:18Z")
I do not doubt that Trump CAN read, but does he? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/427 "2020-07-01T20:06:30Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > “He can walk! He can drink! He can read!” Oooh! Help me Dr Fauci! Dr Fauci, Dr Fauci! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/428 "2020-07-01T20:06:33Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I like what Nicole Wallace just said, paraphrasing here, but basically that Trump’s press team has been reduced to saying, “He can walk! He can drink! He can read!” Well, the first two maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/429 "2020-07-01T20:15:36Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I do not doubt that Trump CAN read, but does he? Teleprompters, and only when he absolutely has to. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/430 "2020-07-01T21:26:59Z")
Trump has now stated that he is thinking maybe masks aren’t so bad. He said he tried one on and he really liked how he looked. Sort of like The Lone Ranger. For those who may not recall, The Lone Ranger wore a mask over his eyes. :thud: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/431 "2020-07-01T22:22:02Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Trump has now stated that he is thinking maybe masks aren’t so bad. He said he tried one on and he really liked how he looked. Sort of like The Lone Ranger. Will he be handing out silver bullets? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/432 "2020-07-02T00:10:34Z")
Check out the new logo. They aren’t even pretending anymore. > > ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/433 "2020-07-02T01:12:38Z")
_Drumpfland, Drumpfland über Alles_ … ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/434 "2020-07-02T01:24:48Z")
Umm, maybe this is why it looks so familiar? > **[Eagle, Globe, and Anchor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle,_Globe,_and_Anchor#/media/File:Globeanchor.svg)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > The Eagle, Globe, and Anchor (commonly referred to as an EGA) is the official emblem and insignia of the United States Marine Corps. The current emblem traces its roots in the designs and ornaments of the early Continental Marines as well as the United Kingdom's Royal Marines.\[citation needed\] The present emblem, adopted in 1955, differs from the emblem of 1868 only by a change in the eagle. Before that time many devices, ornaments, ribbons, and dis... CMC ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/435 "2020-07-02T01:27:26Z")
That’s weak sauce. Because Nazis used it, all bird iconography, including that of our national bird used in many other places, is off-limits? Yeah, CFSG is a dictatorial fascist, but this isn’t signaling, it’s borrowing from other US imagery (as **cmc** points out, or the quarter) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/436 "2020-07-02T01:36:09Z")
Wow, solost, astounding — thanks for the summary. Trump as a child saw his father break that 1968 law. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/437 "2020-07-02T02:40:26Z")
Individual 1 thinks coronavirus will just disappear. > **[Trump says he's 'all for masks,' but believes coronavirus will 'disappear' |...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/politics/donald-trump-masks-coronavirus/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he would have "no problem" wearing a face mask in public in certain circumstances -- a pivot from his months-long refusal to wear a mask in public at events where social distancing was not always observed. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/438 "2020-07-02T03:08:15Z")
Dotard was given a second chance… literally called a ‘retake’ by the interviewer, Sinclair’s Eric Bolling… on the question as to what America should expect from a 2nd term. The answer apparently is ‘more word salad’: [![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jM80S1N8zd3RQJ2c7pF4AvZB4MknTriSaAfrMvEwmnAFG_J57_sffH_xvUALjOskoLG3qEUAdSFg8miDuUvswf0OlPJN63NJQH6ZmRpzKkSIf31Nlu6iADfjEWz-r-hFZ7hAMoUteg=w499-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/LU4NpsonaWxGVHDN8) ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/439 "2020-07-02T03:10:48Z")
That eagle is looking to the left. Trump’s new logo is looking to the right. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/440 "2020-07-02T03:24:51Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 thinks coronavirus will just disappear. (sigh) Jesus Christ, this shit again? AGAIN!? Well, go on, keep trotting out the obviously wrong. Maybe, eventually, a few of your ‘base’ will catch on. Won’t be many at this point, but any at all is better than none. This virus is gonna be with us for a long while. I hope we can get a vaccination working, but I’ve read that ppl are catching this more than once, that immunity is only lasting a few months. If that’s true, it’s really gonna be hard to knock out. Even if we get a vaccine, some folks who have caught it already are suffering long-lasting effects. We’re taking a hit on this one that will last years or decades in one way or another. But don’t worry: the “very stable genius” says it will just go away. Good God, how using that phrase - “(I’m) a very stable genius” - didn’t automatically disqualify him from any position of responsibility, forever, I’ll never know. Calling oneself a very stable genius should have all the assurance as Rain-Man saying he’s, “an excellent driver.” ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/441 "2020-07-02T04:40:39Z")
Good lord, that was exhausting to read. I’m still surprised he can keep the gibberish up for that long. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/442 "2020-07-02T06:14:49Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Check out the new logo. They aren’t even pretending anymore. Story at Raw Story, showing side-by-side images of Trump’s new eagle logo and the Nazi logo. Yes, eagles have been used as symbols of power since Roman days, but the two images here are strikingly similar. > **['It's real': Trump campaign's new T-shirt insignia looks a lot like a Nazi...](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/its-real-trump-campaigns-new-t-shirt-insignia-looks-a-lot-like-a-nazi-symbol-and-people-are-noticing/)** > > President Donald Trump's campaign is promoting a new shirt that features an eagle clutching a shield with the American flag and ribbon displaying his campaign. The Nazi Reichsadler is an eagle clutching a shield with a swastika.While eagles have been... ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/443 "2020-07-02T08:24:16Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Story at Raw Story, showing side-by-side images of Trump’s new eagle logo and the Nazi logo. Yes, eagles have been used as symbols of power since Roman days, but the two images here are strikingly similar. Yeah, there’s that, but I’m shocked, shocked that an administration that so often bangs the drum for outright flag worship would make such a hash of our sacred banner. Missing stars, wrong number of stripes, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/444 "2020-07-02T12:08:20Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Even if we get a vaccine, some folks who have caught it already are suffering long-lasting effects. We’re taking a hit on this one that will last years or decades in one way or another. No wonder the GOP is pushing so hard to destroy the ACA. The health insurance companies are terrified that they won’t be able to toss these poor sods off insurance for having a pre-existing condition, and they need to be able to do that to save BILLIONS of dollars. Oh, you had COVID-19? Well, that’s a pre-existing condition, so we don’t have to cover you anymore. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/445 "2020-07-02T12:29:08Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > > [@Senegoid](#): > > > > Story at Raw Story, showing side-by-side images of Trump’s new eagle logo and the Nazi logo. Yes, eagles have been used as symbols of power since Roman days, but the two images here are strikingly similar. > > Yeah, there’s that, but I’m shocked, shocked that an administration that so often bangs the drum for outright flag worship would make such a hash of our sacred banner. Missing stars, wrong number of stripes, etc. Aside from whether or not it’s aping Nazi iconography, as a former graphic artist I think it looks like something a moderately talented child might come up with. Did trump have one of Jared and Ivanka’s kids throw it together, I wonder? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=23)