# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 223
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4458 "2020-10-06T15:20:50Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > Riverside megachurch pastor who attended White House event contracts Covid-19 > > I’m starting to become religious and believe that there is a real God. Me too! Especially when I flash back to January / February, when the Democrats couldn’t solidify behind a candidate or raise a dime or successfully execute a primary election and the big Trump re-election machine seemed to be an unstoppable behemoth. And I’m starting to think that God is righteous. It’s starting to feel like God said “October Surprise? Hold my beer.” But I don’t have to believe in God to see that this isn’t going to end well for Trump. I know a lot of people get mild cases of Covid, but people with mild cases aren’t hospitalized two days after they start to show symptoms. And the one thing I haven’t seen is people with cases serious enough to be hospitalized recover quickly. This disease has a lot of different trajectories, but the one Trump is on is usually a long ride. I’m still not convinced it will be fatal, frankly, if any individual COVID patient had access to the level of care that Trump has I think they could’ve survived. His odds are really good. The one thing he could do to screw that up is ignore his doctors. I’ve worked with support groups for people with terminal illnesses, and there’s something I’ve observed among successful, high achieving patients. You tell them they have a 20% chance of making it a year, and they interpret that as “I’m going to make it”. These people have always made into the top 20% in any competitive situations. They eventually learn that their privilege doesn’t count in this one arena and it’s a hard lesson. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4459 "2020-10-06T15:25:35Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’ve worked with support groups for people with terminal illnesses, and there’s something I’ve observed among successful, high achieving patients. You tell them they have a 20% chance of making it a year, and they interpret that as “I’m going to make it”. These people have always made into the top 20% in any competitive situations. They eventually learn that their privilege doesn’t count in this one arena and it’s a hard lesson.- And if they do make it, they think it was their exceptional will power, personality, and special entitlement that saved them when others fell. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4460 "2020-10-06T15:28:49Z")
That would be the scientific and common sense thing to do so of course this administration opposes it because of some kind of message _that_ kind of bullshit would send. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4461 "2020-10-06T15:57:45Z")
WH rejected the offer because then an outside agency, with the potential to leak the truth (like it’s not gonna leak anyway–c’ **MON** , Donny) would have facts such as when Trump last tested negative, when the likely exposure was to others, and who all of those others were. Trump would not be able to control the message/optics/PR. Can’t have _that_; he’s got an _election_ to win! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4462 "2020-10-06T16:00:31Z")
We can agree that the administration sucks, but it also has to be pointed out that anyone who supports Trump at this point also sucks. I’ve tried lately to not be a fucking sociopath toward these people, but it’s hard to maintain humanity and show restraint - especially when their attitudes, from the beginning, have been pretty pathological. Just fuck those people. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4463 "2020-10-06T16:07:51Z")
Current Drudge Headlines: > Time Running Out for Sick Trump White House > President Seen Gasping > “Don’t be Afraid of Covid” > Risks Rise in the West Wing > Biden +12 in PA ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4464 "2020-10-06T16:20:43Z")
For the next 1-2 months, I hope the economy craters. Sorry, but I don’t trust the average American voter enough to swim through the spin. I want the jobs market to crash so that the average person feels scared for his/her economic future. Maybe it’s happening now: > **['Massively concerning' jobs report sends a signal that the economic recovery...](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/02/massively-concerning-jobs-report-sends-a-signal-that-the-economic-recovery-could-be-fading.html)** > > The Labor Department reported Friday that nonfarm payrolls increased by 661,000 in September. In normal times, that type of hiring pace would be considered a sign of a robust job market. Good, I say. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4465 "2020-10-06T16:22:46Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > The White House situation right now strongly reminds me of Poe — specifically, _The Masque of the Red Death._ Trump’s people also thought they could hide in their castle while the little people suffer. Guess none of them ever read far enough into that story to find out how it ends. It reminds me of the opening scenes of “The Secret Garden.” I’m envisioning Barron wandering around a corpse-ridden White House… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4466 "2020-10-06T16:23:30Z")
Every time I see the phrase “Don’t Be Afraid of COVID”, I start hearing someone banging a cowbell… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4467 "2020-10-06T16:31:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > With any luck, those will become real collector’s items, _wink-wink_ [![](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61P4P89QR5L._AC_SX679_.jpg) ](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61P4P89QR5L._AC_SX679_.jpg) Like this? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4468 "2020-10-06T16:53:30Z")
Fixed link: [![](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61P4P89QR5L.AC_SX679.jpg) ](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61P4P89QR5L.AC_SX679.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4469 "2020-10-06T17:02:59Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Fixed Iink: > > [https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61P4P89QR5L.AC\_SX679.jpg](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61P4P89QR5L.AC_SX679.jpg) Ta. @codinghorror, please fix your platform. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4470 "2020-10-06T17:08:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A California pastor who attended the Rose Garden Massacre… I am so stealing this. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4471 "2020-10-06T17:34:51Z")
Of interest: Rasumssen’s latest poll has Trump at -9 (45 approve, 54 disapprove). Rasmussen is pretty reliably the poll that has been the most favorable to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4472 "2020-10-06T17:45:07Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A California pastor who attended the Rose Garden Massacre I saw this event described as the ‘Red Vetting’. I suppose you need to be a GOT fan to understand, but it made me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4473 "2020-10-06T18:07:41Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > From George Takei’s twitter feed during last night’s tweet storm: “Donald is so off his rocker that he’s started campaigning for Joe Biden.” That’s almost what I said yesterday (it looks like George beat me by a bit and, of course, made it funny): > [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/9359): > > I love this one-two punch: > > **PROTECT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. VOTE!** > > **BETTER & CHEAPER HEALTHCARE. VOTE!** > > I think he is asking us to vote for Biden. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4474 "2020-10-06T18:14:45Z")
The further Trump falls behind in the polls, the closer he defeat he gets, the more vicious he will be. Trump’s life, his future as he can imagine it, is flashing before his eyes. He is a wounded, cornered lion. He will claw and bite like a mother fucker. I don’t want Biden debating him. I’m dead serious when I suspect that Trump will try to infect him, his wife, Harris, and their entourage. They have to think like this. We’re not in normal America; this is like an “election” in a developing democracy and they’re running against a strongman - they have to approach it like this. They and we will all be sorry if they think of this election in any other way. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4475 "2020-10-06T18:20:46Z")
Quote of the day from GOP strategist Mike Murphy, who hasn’t been seen or heard of much lately, but got in this zinger about Trump’s debate performance: “He set himself on fire and pissed all over the set” > Edit: It says Bill Kristol, but he linked Murphy’s quote. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4476 "2020-10-06T18:26:12Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I don’t want Biden debating him. I’m dead serious when I suspect that Trump will try to infect him, his wife, Harris, and their entourage. Totally agree. The next two should be cancelled. I don’t see what two more debates can possibly accomplish or contribute to this circus. It doesn’t matter what names trump and his flying monkeys call Biden. The smart thing is to avoid being in trump’s presence. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4477 "2020-10-06T18:53:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Totally agree. The next two should be cancelled. Well, President Dumbass has just stated that he looks forward to infecting everyone at the next debate. OK, he didn’t say _that_, exactly, but it’s certainly implied. > **[Trump says he's 'looking forward' to second debate with Biden after Covid...](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/06/trump-looking-forward-to-second-debate-with-biden-after-covid-diagnosis.html)** > > The president's tweet came less than 24 hours after he was discharged from the hospital for Covid-19 treatment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=222) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=224)