# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4498 "2020-10-06T21:17:51Z")

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Yeah, when has Trump ever paid anyone on time?

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**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4499 "2020-10-06T21:18:51Z")

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If the Dems take the Senate and Presidency, there’s a much much better shot.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4500 "2020-10-06T21:19:30Z")

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It is something like a basket of, hmm, what term would one use ?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4501 "2020-10-06T21:22:30Z")

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In the ‘Bout Fuckin’ Time category:

> **[Facebook bans all QAnon groups as dangerous amid surging misinformation](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-qanon/facebook-bans-all-qanon-groups-as-dangerous-amid-surging-misinformation-idUSKBN26R3JQ?il=0)**
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> Facebook Inc on Tuesday classified the QAnon conspiracy theory movement as dangerous and began removing Facebook groups and pages as well as Instagram accounts that hold themselves out as representatives.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4502 "2020-10-06T21:25:38Z")

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I hate to say this out loud\* but the voters may be growing weary, and thinking “Perhaps it’s time to give the other guys another shot.” According to fivethirtyeight, Democrats have an 82% chance of taking the White House and a 64% chance of taking the Senate.  
From Nate’s lips to god’s ears… we would have at least 2 years of blessed relief, with just ranting and foaming from Sean Hannity to keep us amused.

[\*turns around 3 times & spits]

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4503 "2020-10-06T21:46:13Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> > [@MN\_Maenad](#):
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> > What. The fuck.
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> > > ### [Trump calls off coronavirus stimulus talks until after election](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-calls-off-coronavirus-stimulus-talks-until-after-election-2020-10-06?mod=bnbh)
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> > > President Donald Trump on Tuesday tweeted that he told his team to stop negotiating with congressional Democrats on a stimulus package until after the…
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> Yeah, it’s like he’s actively trying to throw the election now.
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> All I can figure is he’s so isolated from anyone but yes-men, that he believes millions of voters will blame Pelosi for this.

The subtext is “vote for me if you want your stimulus, if I lose I’ll refuse to pass it and you’ll be screwed until January”.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4504 "2020-10-06T21:52:00Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> The subtext is “vote for me if you want your stimulus, if I lose I’ll refuse to pass it and you’ll be screwed until January”.

The sub-subtext that he may not realize he is sending is, “Vote for me, and you may never see another stimulus again, in January or ever, because I don’t give a shit about you or anyone else.”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4505 "2020-10-06T21:57:20Z")

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If Trump loses the election, the time between then and January 20th will probably be the most perilous time for the country since the Cuban missile crisis. Trump will have nothing to lose, and will be motivated by spite to leave his successor with a smoking ruin.

I wonder if Trump started taking active steps to destroy the nation whether the Republicans, or members of the cabinet would finally grow a spine to stop him or if they would they decide that the cost of admitting that they were wrong to follow him would be too much even then.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4506 "2020-10-06T22:01:11Z")

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Perilous in no small part because Trump’s behavior might be so extreme that he may literally force the military, law enforcement, or whoever else to stop him by force and/or outright defy the orders of a president. The country could probably find a way to move on from that, but the ugly stain of that precedent would linger for a long time, and it would be more evidence that our democracy is being worn.

Constitutions can’t just function by themselves; they are only as strong as the people who agree to live by their rules.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4507 "2020-10-06T22:07:40Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I wonder if Trump started taking active steps to destroy the nation whether the Republicans, or members of the cabinet would finally grow a spine to stop him

Republicans:

Party before country  
Family before Party  
Individual before Family

Bottom line - they would do whatever would be best for themselves. Screw anyone else.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4508 "2020-10-06T22:22:49Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> In the ‘Bout Fuckin’ Time category:

We need a new acronym: **'BFT**. Must have the apostrophe.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4509 "2020-10-06T22:26:36Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Republicans:
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> Party before country  
> Family before Party  
> Individual before Family

Trump before anything else.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4510 "2020-10-06T22:28:30Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > Republicans:
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> > Party before country  
> > Family before Party  
> > Individual before Family
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> Trump before anything else. -

No mention of God whatsoever. Figures.

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4511 "2020-10-06T22:44:44Z")

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For some reason, this snippet of an ancient movie burbled up from the depths. Movie is _The Groove Tube_ (1974), and shows Richard Belzer as The President, reassuring the America people:

[The President Speaks](https://youtu.be/OgTzlXdviWk?t=12)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4512 "2020-10-06T23:36:41Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> For some reason, this snippet of an ancient movie burbled up from the depths.

Prolly ‘cause it’s a great fuckin’ movie and that’s a funny fuckin’ scene.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4513 "2020-10-07T00:03:42Z")

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After trump’s breaking off relief talks until after the election, and the resulting stock market plunge, I’m surprised no one in his party has taken him out yet. I would bet the Secret Service is on extra high alert to protect him from the people in his party.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4514 "2020-10-07T00:05:19Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I’m surprised no one in his party has taken him out yet. I would bet the Secret Service is on extra high alert to protect him from the people in his party.

They already tried. The Corona-virus infection was given to him by a Republican.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4515 "2020-10-07T00:33:51Z")

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> **[Top White House aide Stephen Miller tests positive for Covid-19 | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/stephen-miller-tests-positive-coronavirus/index.html)**
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> Stephen Miller, a top policy adviser to President Donald Trump, has tested positive for coronavirus, he confirmed in a statement Tuesday.

Et tu Miller?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4516 "2020-10-07T00:42:03Z")

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While Rudy Giuliani is still claiming that he’s testing negative, he went in Fox News last night and he’s obviously sick.

> **[Rudy Giuliani can’t stop coughing while attacking Biden on Fox News for...](https://www.salon.com/2020/10/06/rudy-giuliani-cant-stop-coughing-while-attacking-biden-on-fox-news-for-urging-people-to-wear-masks/)**
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> “I hope that cough isn't anything bad while you are waiting for your test to come back," host Martha MacCallum said

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4517 "2020-10-07T00:50:58Z")

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You have got to be fucking kidding me:

> **[Pence team agrees to allow acrylic barrier near him at VP debate after...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/plexiglass-vp-debate/index.html)**
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> Mike Pence's team agreed Tuesday night to allow the Commission on Presidential Debates to erect an acrylic glass barrier near the vice president for Wednesday's debate in Salt Lake City, a Pence aide and commission member told CNN, bringing an end...

I hope they will require that EVERYONE submit a negative test result before anyone steps one foot in that arena for the night. No ‘arriving too late.’ FFS.

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