# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 227
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4538 "2020-10-07T04:02:52Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > [@Senegoid](#): > > > > Is Trump trying to back-pedal on the stimulus call-off already? > > I imagine that the stock markets falling off a cliff after his earlier tweet got his attention. Or else, maybe, this: > [@](#): > > Stefanie #VOTEEARLY Weiss đŸ”„ > @EcoSexuality > 2h > Replying to @realDonaldTrump @MarkMeadows and 4 others > You’re rambling, panicking, and losing your mind. You were already the dumbest president in history, but now Covid has broken your brain while the drugs turn it to mush. Give up, you sick, weak old man, because America is watching you unravel and it’s not pretty Which is the more plausible? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4539 "2020-10-07T07:41:07Z")
Wait a second. I saw a clip yesterday of Trump returning to the White House and saluting, was he really saluting a helicopter? About halfway down in the article > **[Trump's erratic behavior continues as he halts stimulus talks and spreads...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump's behavior has become increasingly erratic since he left hospital after he suddenly blew up congressional talks on a Covid-19 economic rescue package and falsely claimed that the coronavirus was no worse than the flu, as chaos... ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4540 "2020-10-07T08:58:51Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > > [@romansperson](#): > > > > I hope they will require that EVERYONE submit a negative test result before anyone steps one foot in that arena for the night. No ‘arriving too late.’ FFS. > > Can infected people who don’t test positive yet spread it ? Yes. Probably unlikely in many scenarios, but tests are always accurate. If someone has the virus and a false negative on the test yes they can spread it. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4541 "2020-10-07T11:40:34Z")
[More infected in Trump’s orbit than in all of Taiwan!!!](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/in-a-few-days-more-people-in-trump-s-orbit-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-than-in-all-of-taiwan/ar-BB19LxxU?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds) This week, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4542 "2020-10-07T11:46:46Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > For the Republicans in the Administration: Who is the bigger asshole? The asshole or the one who follows him Neither. The millions of assholes who voted for him in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4543 "2020-10-07T11:53:43Z")
It’s assholes all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4544 "2020-10-07T12:15:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s assholes all the way down.- What’s the proper collective noun for assholes? A hiney of assholes? No. A pantsload of assholes? No. A seatful of assholes? No. I’ve got it: **A buttload of assholes!** ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4545 "2020-10-07T12:19:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’ve got it: **A buttload of assholes!** - Stealing. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4546 "2020-10-07T12:33:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What’s the proper collective noun for assholes? A “caucus”. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4547 "2020-10-07T12:40:06Z")
I compared trump’s propaganda film clip returning to the WH, shedding Covid like a flower girl tossing rose petals at a wedding, to ‘Triumph of the Will’ in one of these threads yesterday. Somebody did a split-screen and the parallels are something. Somebody in trump’s video crew appears to be a fan of Leni Riefenstahl: [https://twitter.com/someknew/status/1313645471651430400](https://twitter.com/someknew/status/1313645471651430400) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4548 "2020-10-07T12:44:36Z")
Biden’s team had better realize who they’re dealing with. I’ll keep saying they need to end the goddamn debates unless they are virtual. For fucks sake, if he ever needed an excuse to pull out of in-person debate, I don’t know a better one than “My opponent nearly fucking died and infected dozens of people around him.” People have to understand that they are running against someone who is desperate to win, and he doesn’t care how he wins, and there are plenty of people in Trump’s White House who think in exactly the same way. They will absolutely knowingly infect people on Biden’s campaign and not lose a wink of sleep over it. They do not give a fuck. They want power. They live to govern for the sake of having power, so that they can enrich themselves - that is it. That is what people need to understand. Nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4549 "2020-10-07T13:13:59Z")
Standard DumpsterFire tactic. Storm out (of stimulus talks) based on his (enormous) gut feeling; gets smacked upside of head by universal opinion that it’s a stupid move; jump back in with, “Stimulus (or trade/ISIS/environment/etc
) is MY IDEA. See, my name is on the check.” I’ve lost count of how many times he’s done this in the past four years. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4550 "2020-10-07T13:27:19Z")
I see it as a three-part strategy by the White House. 1. Ideally, he is hoping that voters might shift their attention back to a topic other than the recent super spreader event at the WH. 2. In line with that, he’s hoping (probably delusional) that the public will shift blame back on House Dems for holding up the stimulus. 3. As I said earlier, if 1 and 2 don’t work as planned, well, he doesn’t care. He’ll steal the election or die trying. I am not sure that Republicans can stand up to Trump’s legions of unhinged, triggered, insecure voters, either. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4551 "2020-10-07T13:44:58Z")
WAY too much credit, Asahi. It’s just a dumpster fire. There’s no strategy in the White House. If there is, then the strategy is obviously failing to a degree unseen since ‘let’s invade Russia’ came to Hitler’s mind. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4552 "2020-10-07T13:49:05Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Of interest: Rasumssen’s latest poll has Trump at -9 (45 approve, 54 disapprove). Rasmussen is pretty reliably the poll that has been the most favorable to Trump. It’s been that low many times before and swung back though. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4553 "2020-10-07T13:59:35Z")
Oh, lordy. Randy Rainbow just released a new video, co-starring Patti Lupone, and it is delightfully vicious. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5AoY6RRfMZM/maxresdefault.jpg "IF DONALD GOT FIRED - Randy Rainbow Parody (featuring Patti LuPone!)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AoY6RRfMZM) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4554 "2020-10-07T14:03:23Z")
You’re probably right, JT. I shouldn’t use the word “strategy.” Maybe tactics or ‘thrashing about’ ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4555 "2020-10-07T14:20:24Z")
I just came here to post this. It is wonderful. Randy Rainbow is just amazing. Plus PATTI LUPONE! Delicious! ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4556 "2020-10-07T14:24:15Z")
I think a fair debate question to Pence is: "Are you currently President of the United States? DumpsterFire is publically taking drugs with mind altering side effects. Have you been sworn in under the authority of the 25th amendment?" ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4557 "2020-10-07T14:28:05Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > was he really saluting a helicopter? [Yes.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-melania-test-positive-for-covid-19/922010/1116) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=226) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=228)