# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 231
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4618 "2020-10-08T16:02:54Z")
Adore me! Adore me! Adore me! Sure, this will probably be another superspreader event but who cares? Adore me! > **[Trump, Biden teams joust over date for next debate](https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2020/10/08/Second-debate-Biden-Trump-virtual-COVID-19/stories/202010080109)** > > ABC News announced it would host its own town hall where Biden will answer questions from voters on national television in Philadelphia next Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4619 "2020-10-08T16:11:09Z")
♪ ♫ ♩ ♬ …the wheels on the bus go CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH… ♩ ♬ ♪ ♫ [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/putin-sends-a-mixed-message-on-us-election-hedging-his-bets/ar-BB19NTHg](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/putin-sends-a-mixed-message-on-us-election-hedging-his-bets/ar-BB19NTHg) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4620 "2020-10-08T16:11:32Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Yesterday trump had a Fox interview with Maria Bartiromo in which he didn’t really say any _new_ crazy things, but it was literally ‘crazy on steroids’. Asked about this in the Pit thread, probably should have posted here - the CNN story about this interview says > He called into Fox Business from the White House residence, where **he continues taking a steroid as part of his Covid treatment**. I can’t find anything else confirming this, do we know this definitively, other than the circumstantial evidence of his more-than-usually deranged behavior? It seems very strange that he is _still_ on steroids when his doctor claimed he is recovering and symptom-free. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4621 "2020-10-08T16:14:54Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > It seems very strange that he is _still_ on steroids when his doctor claimed he is recovering and symptom-free.- It’s not really strange if you make the reasonable assumption that he and the doctor are both lying. 🤥 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4622 "2020-10-08T16:18:59Z")
Sure, but what I’m trying to make sense of is that the CNN story is claiming that he’s known to be on steroids as part of his prescribed _current_ treatment for COVID. That makes no medical sense if he’s recovering and symptom-free, as his doctor claimed. Has his doctor (or anyone else) confirmed that he’s currently on steroids? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4623 "2020-10-08T16:22:20Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > You know your doing an objectively bad job when the frigging New England Journal of Medicine enters the political fray against you. Well, whaddaya expect from the _New England_ Journal of Medicine? New England is full of libs. What does the far more neutral and trustworthy Alabama Journal of Medicine say? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4624 "2020-10-08T16:26:38Z")
Stable genius. Uh huh. This is the guy who has access to “the football.” Just . great. As I said in another thread, the military may have no choice but to start thinking of ways to openly defy orders from the CiC. A terrible new low for the president and presidency. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4625 "2020-10-08T16:32:33Z")
Meanwhile, Michigan gun nuts gonna’ go gun nuts. > **[READ HERE: Criminal complaint outlines plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer](https://www.wxyz.com/news/read-here-criminal-complaint-outlines-michigan-militia-groups-plan-to-kidnap-gov-whitmer)** > > Six people have been accused of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, according to a criminal complaint from the FBI. We’re lucky that these aren’t the sharpest pencils in the box. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4626 "2020-10-08T16:35:33Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > This is the guy who has access to “the football.” Just . great. I think there are enough layers between Trump and nuclear armageddon that I’m not really worried about that. But I’m deeply concerned about him trying to escalate _something_ with China. This narcissist blames China for COVID and his current dire straits, and now COVID has got to him _personally_. I’m hoping that the timing of these comments by O’Brien is just coincidence > **[US warns China against Taiwan attack, stresses US ‘ambiguity’](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/8/us-warns-china-against-taiwan-attack-stresses-us-ambiguity)** > > Senior official warns amphibious landings are difficult, but also repeats US calls for Taiwan to boost defence spending. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4627 "2020-10-08T16:36:44Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > It seems very strange that he is _still_ on steroids when his doctor claimed he is recovering and symptom-free. You don’t just stop taking steroids. You have to wean off of them. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4628 "2020-10-08T16:38:18Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Sure, but what I’m trying to make sense of is that the CNN story is claiming that he’s known to be on steroids as part of his prescribed _current_ treatment for COVID. That makes no medical sense if he’s recovering and symptom-free, as his doctor claimed. Why did Trump’s doctor claim that? Because he’s detected COVID antibodies – antibodies which had been injected into Trump! It’s those “found ballots” all over again. > **[Trump has Covid-19 antibodies. What does that mean?](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-has-covid-19-antibodies-what-does-mean-n1242437)** > > The presence of antibodies doesn't provide information on the president's Covid-19 recovery. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4629 "2020-10-08T16:43:47Z")
It’s funny you mention that article because this is not unlike a thought I had earlier today in which he essentially blames China for infecting him as if it were part of some plot. Look, if Trump believes this loony tunes conspiracy that’s one thing, but if he millions of MAGAbots believe it, that’s a problem, and I have no doubt that people, from hackers in Moscow Oblast to paranoid right wing kooks in Idaho, are busy weaving tales of woe for Orange Julius Caesar himself. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4630 "2020-10-08T16:46:41Z")
> [@](#): > > **Lobbying Barr, Trump demands prosecutions of his political foes** > > Amidst several dozen unhinged tweets this week, Donald Trump turned his attention to a familiar fixation: his desire to see his perceived political enemies prosecuted. After promoting a message demanding the “arrest” of at least one of his rivals, the president asked via Twitter, “Where are all of the arrests?” > > Last night, the Republican specifically referenced Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton – every Democratic presidential nominee from the last 12 years – whom he accused of committing “a criminal act.” Trump added , for the second time, that his 2020 rival should not be “allowed” to run against him. > > This morning, the president kept the offensive going during an interview with Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo. > > > “Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes – the greatest political crime in the history of our country – then we’re going to get little satisfaction… These people should be indicted. This was the greatest political crime in the history of our country – and that includes Obama, and it includes Biden.” > > Trump made no effort to hide his direct lobbying to Attorney General William Barr, repeatedly arguing this morning that the Republican lawyer should indict the White House’s foes. “Bill Barr is gonna go down as either greatest attorney general in history of the country, or he’s gonna go down as a very sad situation,” Trump said. > **[Lobbying Barr, Trump demands prosecutions of his political foes](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/lobbying-barr-trump-demands-prosecutions-his-political-foes-n1242613)** > > Behind in the polls, Trump wants his attorney general to prosecute his enemies. Under normal circumstances, this would be a presidency-defining moment. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4631 "2020-10-08T16:47:35Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > You don’t just stop taking steroids. You have to wean off of them. Well, what his doctors said at the weekend sounded like a dose or two of dex on Fri/Sat. I don’t think that would require a taper to wean off them. But not much about his treatment has been typical anyway. I was really just asking if his doctors or anyone else at the WH has _admitted_ that he’s on a continuing course of steroids, or if CNN is mistaken in that. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4632 "2020-10-08T16:48:21Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > … claiming that he’s known to be on steroids … Like the one that is supposed to be crashing into the Earth on election day? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4633 "2020-10-08T16:51:29Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > he essentially blames China for infecting him as if it were part of some plot. Narcissists get extremely vindictive when they feel personally attacked. I think in his unhinged state he could easily be thinking of this as though it’s an “assassination attempt” by China. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4634 "2020-10-08T16:54:14Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Like the one that is supposed to be crashing into the Earth on election day Trump is taking ass steroids? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4635 "2020-10-08T16:58:37Z")
Careful what ideas you touch on. Some bear troubling imagery. Individual-ONE has been hoarding the bleach. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4636 "2020-10-08T16:58:42Z")
He also realizes that he’s not only losing a popularity contest with voters, he’s beginning to lose his ability to manipulate the outcome, which he’s always been able to do. And he knows that this time, there could be real consequences. New president = new attorney general (read: a REAL attorney general). 😆 New president = new IRS commissioner. 🤣 A real attorney general means real investigations at the federal and state level. 😂 😝 And that…means a real prison cell. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4637 "2020-10-08T17:16:19Z")
Came in here to post this. This is what you get when your leader encourages white supremacists. They feel emboldened to storm the Capital or shoot up vacation homes and put duly elected leaders “on trial for treason.” The usual obscenities are not strong enough for these pieces of human garbage. Any minute now Trump will say “very fine people…governor should reach out…” etc. 🤬 😡 [Plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-michigan-news-conference/5923906002/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=230) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=232)