# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4638 "2020-10-08T17:21:31Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> This is what you get when your leader encourages white supremacists.

It’s also enabled in a more general sense when one explicit justification for allowing heavily armed private citizens is to resist government tyranny, and when people don’t seem to grasp that this bizarre notion is fundamentally at odds with democracy.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4639 "2020-10-08T17:27:12Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> > [@Riemann](#):
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> > It seems very strange that he is _still_ on steroids when his doctor claimed he is recovering and symptom-free.
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> You don’t just stop taking steroids. You have to wean off of them.

Yeah, this. Any time I’ve been given steroids, I’ve been advised to take them until they were gone. Kinda like a [z-pack](https://www.drugs.com/mtm/zithromax-z-pak.html), where the dosage is reduced steadily.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4640 "2020-10-08T17:33:17Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Meanwhile, Michigan gun nuts gonna’ go gun nuts.

Yep, that’s my state 🙄

I like my state but it’s certainly had its share of nutty militia types for a long time. Terry Nichols, Tim McVeigh’s accomplice in the Oklahoma City bombing, was from Michigan. And then trump goes and throws high-octane gasoline on the bonfire by tweeting fun stuff like “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!” last April.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4641 "2020-10-08T17:34:01Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I was really just asking if his doctors or anyone else at the WH has _admitted_ that he’s on a continuing course of steroids, or if CNN is mistaken in that.

It’s part of the hour long interview with Fox Business. I don’t recommend watching that glurge for fear of brain damage, but Trump says he’s no longer taking the Regeneron therapy or Remdesivir (of course not - he did the full course of both) but still taking steroids, which makes sense as those are typically multi-day courses. He shouldn’t have been released from the hospital in the first place, but given that he was, he still needs to take the meds.

Conley, for his part, put out a memo yesterday saying Trump had been symptom free for a day. He hasn’t gone public with any real details of his current treatment.

It’s quite possible (or even likely) that one or both are lying, so take that as you will.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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There is this thing called “stochastic terrorism”, in which a prominent persons suggests a “corrective” action (“somebody ought to kill that guy”) and then expresses dismay when someone actually does it (“it wasn’t my fault!”). ShitGibbon is a habitual stochastic terrorist.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4643 "2020-10-08T17:48:06Z")

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[eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)[Guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/g/Registered) wrote:

> [@](#):
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> There is this thing called “stochastic terrorism”, in which a prominent persons suggests a “corrective” action (“somebody ought to kill that guy”) and then expresses dismay when someone actually does it (“it wasn’t my fault!”). ShitGibbon is a habitual stochastic terrorist.

Or a Henry II, i,e, “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”

Either way Trump has a long history of refusing to condemn white supremacists. So I expect a lot of governors (mostly Democrats but I suspect a couple Republicans) may be increasing their security teams…

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4644 "2020-10-08T18:07:27Z")

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Individual 1 called Kamala Harris a monster who will probably be President two months after Biden’s inauguration. Kind of hinting that he expects her to take Biden out.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4645 "2020-10-08T18:10:46Z")

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The administration wants to bribe seniors with a $200 drug card. It will cost $8 billion to implement and send out, and it’s expected that the cards will have Individual 1’s name on them,

> **[Health officials scrambling to produce Trump's ‘last-minute’ drug cards by...](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/08/seema-verma-mark-meadows-drug-card-plan-427950)**
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> As officials debate how to get Trump’s name on the cards, health officials warn of a taxpayer-funded boondoggle to bolster president’s flagging poll numbers.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 called Kamala Harris a monster who will probably be President two months after Biden’s inauguration.

When I listen to right wingers these days, I’m hearing a lot of “Why isn’t the main steam media talking about the fact that Harris will be president soon? Who’s going to be be in her cabinet? They’re not even asking that question!”

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4647 "2020-10-08T18:12:07Z")

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Wait? He got Covid from the Chinese? I though the Dems gave it to him? Or it was a gift from God, you know, God’s hand to his tiny fingers hand? And also the Gold Star families gave it to him? So hard to keep up.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4648 "2020-10-08T18:19:48Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The administration wants to bribe seniors with a $200 drug card. It will cost $8 billion to implement and send out, and it’s expected that the cards will have Individual 1’s name on them,

Typical. He couldn’t pass the buck so now he wants taxpayers to pay.

> **[The White House botched a deal to lower prescription prices because drug...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-botched-a-deal-to-lower-prescription-drug-prices-2020-9)**
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> Chief of staff Mark Meadows said if a deal wasn't reached, he would say "PhRMA walked away because of dissent within the industry over sharing costs."

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4649 "2020-10-08T18:51:39Z")

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On top of all that, he got it deliberately. Presumably to demonstrate how easily it can be defeated\* — so there’s nothing to be afraid of, dump your masks, gather in large groups, “open up” the economy, &c &c &c.

\* At least if one is a “perfect physical specimen.”

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4650 "2020-10-08T19:03:48Z")

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Why is this video he released pretty clearly [in front of a green screen](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314252606110412806)?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4651 "2020-10-08T19:06:43Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Why is this video he released pretty clearly [in front of a green screen](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314252606110412806)

My god, he’s a parody of himself.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4652 "2020-10-08T19:07:45Z")

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C’mon – you want a man in his condition\* to walk that far away from the White House? he might need air halfway there.

\*even a Perfect Physical Specimen

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4653 "2020-10-08T19:21:08Z")

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Another 'BFT event.

> **[Trump ex-fundraiser charged for role in foreign lobbying](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-broidy/trump-ex-fundraiser-charged-for-role-in-foreign-lobbying-idUSKBN26T3B1?il=0)**
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> Elliott Broidy, a former fundraiser for U.S. President Donald Trump, was charged with illegally lobbying him to drop an investigation involving a massive Malaysian embezzlement scandal, according to court documents.

More of this, please!

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4654 "2020-10-08T19:32:19Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Why is this video he released pretty clearly [in front of a green screen](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314252606110412806)?&nbsp;

And why is he playing an invisible accordion?

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4655 "2020-10-08T19:43:49Z")

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I didn’t get past nobody knows he’s a senior and maybe you don’t have to tell 'em.

Then I curled up into a fetal position at the realization the DONALD FUCKING TRUMP IS OUR PRESIDENT!!! What have we wrought, ferfuckssakes?

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4656 "2020-10-08T20:03:39Z")

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James Corden also claims that in the video he’s “extra orange”

> **[James Corden Notices A Striking Contrast In Trump's New Video](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/james-corden-striking-contrast-in-trumps-new-video_n_5f7f150cc5b6e48b1684c0c4)**
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> Orange you glad the "Late Late Show" host spotted this?

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> “Is it just me, or is Trump looking especially orange?” the “Late Late Show” host wondered, as he and Ian Karmel, co-head writer of the “Late Late Show,” broke into Oompa Loompa song parodies about the president.
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> Corden tried to listen to Trump’s message but kept getting distracted.
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> “I mean, look at the difference between the color of his hands and the face,” he said, adding, “Who’s doing the makeup?”
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> “I think they’re like 8 feet away with a fire hose applying it,” Karmel joked.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4657 "2020-10-08T20:21:16Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Elliott Broidy, a former fundraiser for U.S. President Donald Trump, was criminally charged for his role in foreign lobbying, according to a court filing, and he is expected to plead guilty later this month

This is the same Elliott Broidy that used to be deputy finance chair of the RNC, yes? The one that was one of three clients of Michael Cohen, the other two being Donald Trump and Sean Hannity?

“Everybody else I know gets indicted” indeed.

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