# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 241
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4818 "2020-10-11T19:59:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Kind of like how the invention of the cell phone camera has proven that there is nothing to the Loch Ness monster or Bigfoot. Or police violence. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4819 "2020-10-11T20:10:01Z")
> **[Trump didn’t want to do a ‘glorified conference call,’ Eric Trump says of...](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/11/trump-glorified-conference-call-eric-cancelled-debate-428632)** > > Eric Trump said it was Joe Biden who didn’t want to debate the president in-person Oct. 15. No Erik, what you are trying to avoid there is that in a near future dictionary we will see Trump’s image when one looks [for the definition of chicken.](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-coward-critics-virtual-presidential-debate-1537512) 🐔 (just noticed that the emoji does look like if it is using a Trump tie) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4820 "2020-10-11T21:04:50Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > One truly genuine way that I am disappointed by Trump is that, even in 2017, I was like ‘well, if someone is going to blurt out the truth about Roswell, the Tri-Lateral Commission, and JFK, it’s gotta be this guy!’ > > But fuck no, we didn’t even get that. That’s because those myths weren’t about _him_. Now that I think of it, all those classic conspiracies are no longer discussed. QAnon and child sex slavery made them obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4821 "2020-10-11T21:16:07Z")
Or: the administrators of Area 51 took one look at President-Elect Trump and said: oh hell no. This clown does _not_ get the customary briefing. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4822 "2020-10-11T22:07:05Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > This clown does _not_ get the customary briefing. He wouldn’t pay attention, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4823 "2020-10-11T22:08:10Z")
Twitter slapped a warning on Individual 1’s tweet that he’s cured and immune and can’t spread the virus. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4824 "2020-10-11T22:33:09Z")
His flying monkeys will be so disappointed. I’m sure many of them would be honored to catch the virus from him and die. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4825 "2020-10-11T23:45:59Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > > [@JohnT](#): > > > > One truly genuine way that I am disappointed by Trump is that, even in 2017, I was like ‘well, if someone is going to blurt out the truth about Roswell, the Tri-Lateral Commission, and JFK, it’s gotta be this guy!’ > > > > But fuck no, we didn’t even get that. > > That’s because those myths weren’t about _him_. ^This. Other Presidents have probably at least jokingly asked for information on those things—but it would _never_ occur to Donald to ask about anything other than his polls or his rally-sizes. . . . > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Twitter slapped a warning on Individual 1’s tweet that he’s cured and immune and can’t spread the virus. A lot of this (the tweet, I mean, not Twitter’s rather half-assed attempt to flag it) is about Trump wanting to resume rallies. There may also be an element of claiming, retroactively, than even though he knew he’d tested positive and chose to expose others anyway, it’s all _okay_, because he’s a Superior Entity who can’t possibly infect others. Instead of what he actually is: a tantrum-prone toddler who knowingly spread a potentially deadly virus, because he Wanted To Do What He Wanted To Do, even after a positive COVID test. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4826 "2020-10-11T23:51:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > His flying monkeys will be so disappointed. I’m sure many of them would be honored to catch the virus from him and die. Those little coronaviruses that he’s spewing are his flying monkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4827 "2020-10-12T00:02:35Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > 😱 > > (Looked for a Headslap emoji…?) > > I usually use face palm. 🤦‍♂️ Oh, I see that, now. Must have skipped over it while looking. Thanks–no doubt I’ll have need of it again some time! . . . > [@smithsb](#): > > I took this to mean,“What Congressional Republicans …” > The Republican Party disbanded; starting in the 1980s, complete by 2016. For evidence - go look for the Republican Party platform for 2020 - there isn’t any. Indeed. Qué lástima. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4828 "2020-10-12T00:37:09Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > This. Other Presidents have probably at least jokingly asked for information on those things—but it would _never_ occur to Donald to ask about anything other than his polls or his rally-sizes. “Do the aliens love me, or are they Obama aliens?” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4829 "2020-10-12T00:56:41Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > One truly genuine way that I am disappointed by Trump is that, even in 2017, I was like ‘well, if someone is going to blurt out the truth about Roswell, the Tri-Lateral Commission, and JFK, it’s gotta be this guy!’ > > But fuck no, we didn’t even get that. Trump got briefed on Roswell. The aliens are in cages, and the infants have been separated and taken to different cages. We don’t understand their physiology, so there’s no way to give them any healthcare. So there was really nothing Trump saw in the briefing that required his attention. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4830 "2020-10-12T01:29:11Z")
QAnon should create a callback to the good old days, like, the aliens taught the Dems how to extract adenochrome from kids’ brains. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4831 "2020-10-12T01:38:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > There may also be an element of claiming, retroactively, than even though he knew he’d tested positive and chose to expose others anyway, it’s all _okay_ , because he’s a Superior Entity who can’t possibly infect others. He even retroactively changed his story from how he wasn’t really sick, the doctors made him go to Walter Reed to he was nearly on death’s door and now he is God’s miracle. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4832 "2020-10-12T01:46:42Z")
I just donated some money to the cause. 100$… About what I can afford but it’s the first time I’ve ever donated to a political cause as far as I can remember. Hope it helps. I feel bad for not putting my money where my mouth is in the past. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4833 "2020-10-12T01:57:17Z")
My birthplace of Johnstown, PA improbably is in the news as the destination for a Trump campaign rally/superspreader event this coming week. That this long-dead steel town has somehow attracted both major candidates (Biden chose Johnstown as the end point of his recent whistle-stop tour) frankly puzzles me. Yes, I know that PA is very much in play as a, perhaps the, critical swing state, but Johnstown’s role is not obvious nonetheless. This WaPo article from 2016 (worked without paywall for me): > **[Why was Donald Trump campaigning in Johnstown, Pa.?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/22/why-was-donald-trump-campaigning-in-johnstown-pennsylvania/)** > > It doesn't make sense as politics — but it makes sense for showmanship. …ruminates on how this came to be and still seems relevant today. I do have to wonder whether the city’s residents feel Trump’s Presidency has been a net gain for them; so far as I know, the area remains just as depressed and poverty-stricken as at the time he gained office, if not more so. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4834 "2020-10-12T08:11:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I would vote for your dog for president. I voting you dog! Of course, since the Air Bud Amendment there’s nothing in the Constitution that says a dog can’t be president. (Although if your dog is 35 years old or older, that’d be pretty damn impressive. > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > My birthplace of Johnstown, PA improbably is in the news as the destination for a Trump campaign rally/superspreader event this coming week. Making it a close second in the [Worst Thing To Happen To Johnstown](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood) rankings, although I suppose in terms of number of deaths caused we’ll have to wait and see if it makes it to #1. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4835 "2020-10-12T09:26:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > (Although if your dog is 35 years old or older, that’d be pretty damn impressive. That’s only 5 in dog-years! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4836 "2020-10-12T12:28:53Z")
Apparently, this threat I predicted has gone from the hypothetical, to reality: > **[DOJ Frees Federal Prosecutors to Take Steps That Could Interfere With...](https://www.propublica.org/article/doj-frees-federal-prosecutors-to-take-steps-that-could-interfere-with-elections-weakening-long-standing-policy)** > > In an internal announcement, the Justice Department created an exception to a decadeslong policy meant to prevent prosecutors from taking overt investigative steps that might affect the outcome of the vote. I figured Bill Barr was not above doing something like this. Don’t be surprised if he starts threatening mail-in voters en mass before long. I suspect he’ll try to get the most bang for his buck by going after organizers or groups that help register and drive voters to polls, but his actions could also ensnare voters who show up to vote in person in good faith, simply believing that their mail-in ballot wouldn’t make it on time. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4837 "2020-10-12T13:48:15Z")
I can imagine that rotting Cartman of an AG scrambling to find _some_ kind of ratfuckery to get Don off his back about arresting all those bad’n nasty Hilary/Pellosi/Brennan types. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=240) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=242)