# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4838 "2020-10-12T14:08:02Z")

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I think Barr was using Durham to find something to use so that he could write another Comey letter weeks before the election. Problem is, Trump says the quiet part out loud.

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**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4839 "2020-10-12T16:41:18Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I thought Que was Tommy Lee Jones’ character in _Men In Black_ .

His character was K, for Kevin, as revealed in MIB2.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4840 "2020-10-12T17:12:09Z")

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> **[Oklahoma Tribes Lose Environmental Control of Their Lands - The Lost Ogle](https://thelostogle.com/2020/10/12/oklahoma-tribes-lose-environmental-control-of-their-lands)**
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> Happy Indigenous Peoples’ Day or, as many racists still like to call it, Columbus Day! While many of us Natives will be honoring this day with a time of deep reflection, mostly to show the world our steadfast resiliency in the face of over 500 years...

With help from the Environment Perfidy Agency and DumpsterFire remora Gov. Stitt of Oklahoma, “Last week, in keeping with Oklahoma’s long traditions of cheating, stealing and murdering the tribes that have historically lived here or were forcefully moved here, the Environmental Protection Agency granted Oklahoma regulatory control over all environmental issues on tribal lands, stripping around 38 tribes of their sovereignty.”

" From [The Young Turks](https://tyt.com/stories/4vZLCHuQrYE4uKagy0oyMA/65Oa5a0nYI4rljnOqxhUto):

> _The EPA has now granted the State of Oklahoma the same authority it had before __McGirt__ on environmental issues, especially on petroleum. It can do this because federal legislation can nullify Supreme Court rulings. In 2005, a midnight rider attached to a transportation bill__took away environmental regulatory control by Oklahoma tribes if requested by the state as it has now done. The Oklahoma state government is pro-fossil fuel and pro-big agribusiness._"

As of this writing, Attorney General Peter Griffin William Barr is working with other Republican officials to nullify the landmark McGirt vs. Oklahoma\* decision, visibly aroused by this recent blow.

\*All those treaties signed with Native American tribes; still good.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4841 "2020-10-12T17:35:12Z")

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The Cold War conspiracies have become obsolete. I hardly ever hear talk of the New World Order or that the Pope is going to become world dictator any more.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4842 "2020-10-12T17:58:47Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > I would vote for your dog for president.
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> I voting you dog!

Sadly, my dog would be a bad choice, being a Russian Wolfhound.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4843 "2020-10-12T18:36:37Z")

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To borrow a phrase from the right, better Russian than Republican.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4844 "2020-10-12T18:44:53Z")

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Guys and gals, I have some exciting news!

> <https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1315306261144109063>

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4845 "2020-10-12T19:04:46Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Now that I think of it, all those classic conspiracies are no longer discussed. QAnon and child sex slavery made them obsolete.

OMG! Talk about a deep-state conspiracy! The deep-state Tri-Lateral Commission created Qanon to spout bat-shit crazy theories to pull attention away from the truth of Area 51 and the JFK assassination.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4846 "2020-10-12T19:23:51Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Guys and gals, I have some exciting news!

Read the comments, some are hilarious. LIke this one - They stopped by, said “take us to your leader”, saw him, said “No thanks” and moved on into the Galaxy.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4847 "2020-10-12T19:30:45Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> > [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> > Now that I think of it, all those classic conspiracies are no longer discussed. QAnon and child sex slavery made them obsolete.
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> OMG! Talk about a deep-state conspiracy! The deep-state Tri-Lateral Commission created Qanon to spout bat-shit crazy theories to pull attention away from the truth of Area 51 and the JFK assassination.

I _KNEW_ it!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4848 "2020-10-12T19:46:18Z")

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For reference, [here is the video clip](https://youtu.be/kUPogxCRKlQ), in which, after saying he will take a strong look into the ufo thing, he prates on about how big the military is now.

but ultimately, there are no “ufos”, there is [only one](https://youtu.be/mjRxC15bH_4)

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4849 "2020-10-12T20:35:17Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> Read the comments, some are hilarious. LIke this one - They stopped by, said “take us to your leader”, saw him, said “No thanks” and moved on into the Galaxy.

Scotty, beam him up. Then leave.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4850 "2020-10-12T21:27:46Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> but ultimately, there are no “ufos”, there is [only one](https://youtu.be/mjRxC15bH_4)

I was expecting a link to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDy4OMAkgY).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4851 "2020-10-12T21:54:30Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I was expecting a link to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qDy4OMAkgY).

Likewise.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4852 "2020-10-12T23:01:27Z")

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I expected him to claim the whole anal UV light probe came to him in his sleep.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4853 "2020-10-12T23:19:44Z")

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What, some gray alien on a flaming McDonald’s Apple Pie came to him in a dream and told him “You are the Presidant, with an A”?

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4854 "2020-10-12T23:20:29Z")

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Florida rally starting soon. Let’s hope attendance is lower than expected and/or he only lasts onstage for 20 minutes. He is planning on doing 2-3 events a day from now on

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4855 "2020-10-12T23:36:21Z")

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Too close to the election for anything likely to be done, but it still does my heart good to see this:

> **[U.S. ethics groups say Barr uses DOJ as political tool, call for his impeachment](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-barr/u-s-ethics-groups-say-barr-uses-doj-as-political-tool-call-for-his-impeachment-idUSKBN26X2RS?il=0)**
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> Two private groups focused on U.S. government ethics on Monday accused Attorney General William Barr of misusing his office to support President Donald Trump's political goals and called on the House of Representatives to begin impeachment...

Barr has done as much as Trump, if not more, to undermine the rule of law in this country. When all is said and done, I hope he is prosecuted for his abuse of office.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4856 "2020-10-13T00:06:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > This. Other Presidents have probably at least jokingly asked for information on those things—but it would _never_ occur to Donald to ask about anything other than his polls or his rally-sizes.
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> “Do the aliens love me, or are they Obama aliens?”

That’s what he’d say in the meeting, all right!

To the public, his story would be that the scientists, big strong men, approached him with tears in their eyes and said _‘Sir, these aliens, they’ve been waiting so long for you, they admire you so much, you have no idea, these big beautiful aliens, they were so unhappy during the Obama years, it was sad. Really sad.’_  
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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> He even retroactively changed his story from how he wasn’t really sick, the doctors made him go to Walter Reed to he was nearly on death’s door and now he is God’s miracle.

The thing is, he’s so disgustingly _obvious_. Yet his followers just lap up the changing versions of his lying stories.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4857 "2020-10-13T02:07:41Z")

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Okay, who is going to tell Trump that the song isn’t saying “nacho man”?

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