# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 254
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5078 "2020-10-17T18:26:46Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > I don’t believe in censorship (exempting pornography) words and opinions shouldn’t be deleted. If there was a story on Don Jr. it wouldn’t be deleted. That assertion is made without any evidence of its factuality being offered. If the NY Post story is competently vetted and shown to NOT be a slipshod smear job worthy of the combined skills of Jacob Wohl and James O’Keefe, let someone come forward with the vetting. Then we can talk about whether carrying it is the right [business] move for Twitter and Facebook to make. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5079 "2020-10-17T20:48:19Z")
It’s also problematic that the likely “source” for this story is Russian Intelligence, funelled through a gullible Guilianni, who is a likely Russian “useful idiot” at best. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5080 "2020-10-17T20:52:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Guilianni, who is a likely Russian “useful idiot” at best. And becoming more “useful” in correlation with Biden’s growing popularity. ---
**Author:** ![rboyce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rboyce/32/4066_2.png) [@rboyce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rboyce)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5081 "2020-10-17T21:00:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > gullible lianni accomplice is a more accurate term than “gullible”; > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > , who is a likely Russian “useful idiot” at best More like an accomplice in a treasonous act. in my view (:- ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5082 "2020-10-18T03:06:02Z")
> **[Donald Trump suggests he'd leave the country if he loses election to Joe Biden...](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn)** > > At a rally in Macon, Georgia, President Donald Trump suggested he may have to "leave the country" if he were to lose the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5083 "2020-10-18T03:12:08Z")
There was a piercing chill in the air here in West Michigan tonight. Then I read Orangeanus was in the area holding a rally, and it all made sense. [Oh, and the crowd chanted “Lock her up” after he mentioned Gov. Whitmer, to which he responded with a chuckle and a “Lock them all up.”](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521563-crowd-chants-lock-her-up-about-whitmer-at-michigan-trump-rally) Way to lead, you greasy cowardly fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5084 "2020-10-18T03:18:51Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > [https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn) I suggest St. Helena might be the most appropriate place. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5085 "2020-10-18T03:46:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > It’s also problematic that the likely “source” for this story is Russian Intelligence, funelled through a gullible Guilianni, who is a likely Russian “useful idiot” at best. Rubes being taken in by rubes. This has got to end. If there is a DEEP STATE that can help remove Trump, then VIVE LE DEEP ETAT. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5086 "2020-10-18T03:49:22Z")
This is America, where the power lies in the election, so in a few weeks L’etate deep c’est moi. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5087 "2020-10-18T03:56:48Z")
It’s America? Holy shit, who knew? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5088 "2020-10-18T04:02:42Z")
[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/95aNuI1-1lHCpRtxpGdZf5O5iXWirMb8rkBSkq0V81lTtLLxxsfxt3QhP9T9FRA77i7quEAtjEPOc4Q0uZcwR3DkJ58kySBJ6lKNtArQOYdEjy1k6-R_hFVlcfnykuICiEDubK7oGQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/2hLaokJFFY4LD4NA8) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5089 "2020-10-18T04:02:59Z")
Honestly, the Banana Republics are laughing at us. (Even my Colombian friends are shocked by the pitiable state of the US.) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5090 "2020-10-18T04:06:45Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > > [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > > > [https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn) > > I suggest St. Helena might be the most appropriate place. [Elephant Island](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_Island). Highly recommended by Shackleton’s crew. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5091 "2020-10-18T05:17:12Z")
WaPo contributer Amy Siskind began keeping an item-by-item list of Trumpgressions starting after his 2016 election. The Post publishes a selection of them, said to be about 1% of the 34,000 entries. > **[Perspective | Trump has shredded norms. Here’s an exhaustive – and still...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/outlook/siskind-list-trump-norms/)** > > A guide to what the next president will have to unwind. > [@](#): > > Experts in authoritarianism advise keeping a list of things changing, subtly, around you, so you’ll remember. Days after the 2016 presidential election, I started a list. Each week, I chronicle the ways Donald Trump has changed our country. This selection, adapted from more than 34,000 entries — or about 1 percent of the total — focuses on the norms he and his administration have broken. [The List](https://theweeklylist.org/) offers us a road map back to normalcy and democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5092 "2020-10-18T05:22:45Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I suggest St. Helena might be the most appropriate place Certainly not St. Helena, California! (Town at the heart of Napa Valley “Wine Country”.) We don’t want him! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5093 "2020-10-18T05:30:28Z")
Come to think of it, these days, [St. Helena](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Helena) is probably much too pleasant for the Donald’s place of exile. In particular, it has Internet connections, which would enable him to continue to Tweet nonsense. Elephant Island isn’t a bad suggestion. I might also consider an island with an active volcano, like [Taal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taal_Volcano) in the Philippines. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5094 "2020-10-18T05:47:59Z")
I suggest North Sentinel Island. Lovely place for Trump to visit. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5095 "2020-10-18T07:59:19Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > [https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/17/trump-leave-the-country-sot-macon-rally-nr-vpx.cnn) Who would take him? ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5096 "2020-10-18T09:14:53Z")
I am so ready for this thread to be permanently closed that my teeth itch. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5097 "2020-10-18T09:20:15Z")
You think the Trump Clusterfuck will stop immediately after the election and inauguration? Oh my, I wish I had your confidence. Maybe a new one might have to be started…The Post Trump Clusterfuck in its Death Throes? ;p [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=253) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=255)