# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 255
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5098 "2020-10-18T09:23:20Z")
I was kinda hoping we could agree to start _ **IGNORING THE FUCK** _ out of him around here. I do admit I’m somewhat addicted to scanning for the latest fiasco, several times a day (hour), but maybe we could do a 12-step program instead. ETA: On second thought, we gotta ride this train to January 20th, then follow the progress of the cases that will be brought against him and his ilk. ETA again: fuck ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5099 "2020-10-18T10:39:15Z")
I’m addicted too. I have the co-morbidity of watching my own government (Aus) trying to navigate a Trumpian path to #WINNING at all costs, deep corruption shit notwithstanding. I’ve never been so enthralled (or scared) by a year as much as 2020. And that’s WITHOUT all the Covid19 stuff happening. One bright light, Jacinda Ardern won the NZ election yesterday…maybe a beacon of hope in this terrible world? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5100 "2020-10-18T11:57:36Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > I am so ready for this thread to be permanently closed that my teeth itch. No. Fucking. Joke. It’s been an interminably long four ~~thousand~~ years. We do need to permanently lock this thread when the election results are formally declared. Maybe have a Zoom GTG with beverages and snacks (provided for oneself, of course). Then maybe there should be a _Transition to Normalcy_ thread but without the CFSG’s name in the title. I don’t want to see that hateful, disgusting, vomit-inducing configuration of letters all day, every day, every _where_ any more. In the future, I might start referring to him as DJT. Remember how everyone gave me grief for referring to him as “thump”? Good times. Even dealing with this horrendous pandemic will seem doable once we have national leadership. Yeah, Joe is going to get all kinds of misery from all over, but that goes with the territory of being at the top. It will be rough going, but the major part (to quote Gerald Ford) of “our long national nightmare” will be over. Not ALL over, but the heart of it will have a wooden stake driven through it and its mouth stuffed with garlic. Aside: I claim for myself the distinction of having avoided hearing DJT’s voice _at all_ during this, his (so-called) presidency. The last time I sat and listened to him utter more than a couple of words was when he debated Hillary before the 2016 election. Since that day, whenever he has come on the radio, I immediately turn him off. I don’t watch news on TV or on my computer, phone, or kindle. I READ what he says, but I have spared myself the sound of his voice for these four years. 🙂 Hell, I want some kind of a badge for that! ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5101 "2020-10-18T12:10:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t want to see that hateful, disgusting, vomit-inducing configuration of letters all day, every day, every _where_ any more This. Yesterday my nine-year-old son happened to be thinking about colleges; we talked about famously good ones, and he asked me, “what’s the WORST college?” I told him, “You’re not going to believe this…but, what name would you give to something — anything — if you wanted to convey to everyone that it’s the WORST of its kind? The worst car, the worst tree…whatever.” Kid: “Trump?” Me: “You got it! There actually was a Trump U, and it was a complete scam.” (Then I told him about Bugs Bunny’s “Whassamatta U”…) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5102 "2020-10-18T13:49:06Z")
Plum Island? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5103 "2020-10-18T13:50:38Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > (Then I told him about Bugs Bunny’s “Whassamatta U”…) Bullwinkle. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5104 "2020-10-18T14:05:02Z")
Ah, that’s why my first thought when Whassamatta U. was brought up was: “Isn’t that in Frostbite Falls?” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5105 "2020-10-18T15:10:54Z")
Right! Ignorance fought. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5106 "2020-10-18T15:24:31Z")
Good grief, why would you want to do that to those poor people? Don’t they have enough problems with self-righteous missionaries? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5107 "2020-10-18T15:26:07Z")
another 3 months at this rate, and this thread will be closed either way. Hopefully, we will not need a Part Tres ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5108 "2020-10-18T15:29:44Z")
It’s not a matter of censorship; it’s an example of how misinformation spreads. I know the argument will be “Let the people read and decide for themselves” The problem is that people are not always in a position to judge misinformation, particularly when news outlets disseminate bad information deliberately treating it as if it were newsworthy. We live in a time when people are increasingly having a harder time differentiating between information that has legitimate foundation in fact, and information that does not, or worse, information that is partially couched in fact but uses fact to sell a larger false theme. Most of us know, for instance, that the most effective lies are those which use facts and omissions to mislead. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5109 "2020-10-18T15:35:17Z")
Gullible, my ass. He knows he’s deliberately peddling nonsense. It worked in 2016, so they figure why wouldn’t it work again in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5110 "2020-10-18T15:38:21Z")
Unfortunately, I don’t think this thread will be closed anytime soon, because I still think that motherfucker is going to win. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5111 "2020-10-18T15:51:08Z")
Trump will not win without massive cheating. I don’t dismiss the possibility, but Donald Trump will NOT be fairly elected to a second term. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5112 "2020-10-18T16:04:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > We do need to permanently lock this thread when the election results are formally declared. Maybe have a Zoom GTG with beverages and snacks (provided for oneself, of course). As the person who blatantly ripped off the original thread, I heartily endorse this idea. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5113 "2020-10-18T16:06:10Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Good grief, why would you want to do that to those poor people? Don’t they have enough problems with self-righteous missionaries?. They solve those problems quickly and simply. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5114 "2020-10-18T16:06:30Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Good grief, why would you want to do that to those poor people? Don’t they have enough problems with self-righteous missionaries? What’s the problem? Trump should be dropped off on the beach clutching his all time favorite book. The North Sentinelese _love_ bibles. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5115 "2020-10-18T16:07:37Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > The North Sentinelese _love_ bibles. _Excellent_ kindling for the cookfires. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5116 "2020-10-18T16:17:01Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I suggest St. Helena might be the most appropriate place. > [@eschereal](#): > > [Elephant Island](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_Island). Highly recommended by Shackleton’s crew. > [@Colibri](#): > > Come to think of it, these days, [St. Helena](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Helena) is probably much too pleasant for the Donald’s place of exile. In particular, it has Internet connections, which would enable him to continue to Tweet nonsense. Elephant Island isn’t a bad suggestion. I might also consider an island with an active volcano, like [Taal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taal_Volcano) in the Philippines. Fie on both of you. [Devil’s Island](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Island) of _Papillon_ fame. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I suggest North Sentinel Island. Lovely place for Trump to visit. _Now_ you’re talkin’. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5117 "2020-10-18T16:19:49Z")
But they’re still exposed to whatever he’s carrying. Bile, divisiveness, paranoia, sociopathy … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=254) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=256)