# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 256
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5118 "2020-10-18T16:20:59Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Fie on both of you. [Devil’s Island](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Island) of _Papillon_ fame. Sure, back in the good old days. But now that the prison is closed, Devil’s Island is a quite pleasant tropical island that gets 50,000 tourists a year. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5119 "2020-10-18T16:23:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s been an interminably long four ~~thousand~~ years. Just last night I played a Randy Rainbow where he was “talking” to Kellyanne Conway 57 days into the administration and he commented it seemed longer adding, “Living under Trump is like dog years.” How prescient the man is. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5120 "2020-10-18T16:33:29Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Come to think of it, these days, [St. Helena](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Helena) is probably much too pleasant for the Donald’s place of exile. In particular, it has Internet connections, which would enable him to continue to Tweet nonsense. Elephant Island isn’t a bad suggestion. I might also consider an island with an active volcano, like [Taal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taal_Volcano) in the Philippines. Maybe set up a raft anchored to [a nice remote spot](https://www.straightdope.com/21341463/where-can-i-go-to-really-get-away-from-it-all)… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5121 "2020-10-18T16:37:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@tripthicket](#): > > > > I am so ready for this thread to be permanently closed that my teeth itch. > > No. Fucking. Joke. > > It’s been an interminably long four ~~thousand~~ years. > > We do need to permanently lock this thread when the election results are formally declared. Maybe have a Zoom GTG with beverages and snacks (provided for oneself, of course). > > Then maybe there should be a _Transition to Normalcy_ thread but without the CFSG’s name in the title. I don’t want to see that hateful, disgusting, vomit-inducing configuration of letters all day, every day, every _where_ any more. In the future, I might start referring to him as DJT. Remember how everyone gave me grief for referring to him as “thump”? Good times. > > Even dealing with this horrendous pandemic will seem doable once we have national leadership. Yeah, Joe is going to get all kinds of misery from all over, but that goes with the territory of being at the top. It will be rough going, but the major part (to quote Gerald Ford) of “our long national nightmare” will be over. Not ALL over, but the heart of it will have a wooden stake driven through it and its mouth stuffed with garlic. > > Aside: I claim for myself the distinction of having avoided hearing DJT’s voice _at all_ during this, his (so-called) presidency. The last time I sat and listened to him utter more than a couple of words was when he debated Hillary before the 2016 election. Since that day, whenever he has come on the radio, I immediately turn him off. I don’t watch news on TV or on my computer, phone, or kindle. I READ what he says, but I have spared myself the sound of his voice for these four years. 🙂 Hell, I want some kind of a badge for that! Heh. I did the same thing with Bush the Lesses. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5122 "2020-10-18T16:46:19Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Sure, back in the good old days. But now that the prison is closed, Devil’s Island is a quite pleasant tropical island that gets 50,000 tourists a year. Nuts. I was thinking it was deserted and he’d be living on coconuts and crabs. Maybe a living history exhibit could be opened with one inmate. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5123 "2020-10-18T16:47:03Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > You think the Trump Clusterfuck will stop immediately after the election and inauguration? Oh my, I wish I had your confidence. > > Maybe a new one might have to be started…The Post Trump Clusterfuck in its Death Throes? On January 20, we can close this one. Then we should start a new, more hopeful foreward-looking thread (perhaps in P&E rather than the Pit), “Repairing the Clusterfuck”, in which we discuss all the things the new administration and Congress need to do, and are doing, to fix the trainwreck that Trump leaves behind. I nominate @ThelmaLou to have the honor of starting that thread. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5124 "2020-10-18T16:50:06Z")
Awww… thanks. Whatever the new one is called, it will NOT have DJT’s name in the title!! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5125 "2020-10-18T16:53:23Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > On January 20, we can close this one. Then we should start a new, more hopeful foreward-looking thread (perhaps in P&E rather than the Pit), “Repairing the Clusterfuck”, in which we discuss all the things the new administration and Congress need to do, and are doing, to fix the trainwreck that Trump leaves behind. I think that there will be an opportunity for a follow-along thread for all the legal problems Donnie, his family, and members of his family will (hopefully) have. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5126 "2020-10-18T16:56:27Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I think that there will be an opportunity for a follow-along thread for all the legal problems Donnie, his family, and members of his family will (hopefully) have And all his ass-kissing bootlickers too. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5127 "2020-10-18T16:57:56Z")
That last phrase should have been “members of his administration.” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5128 "2020-10-18T17:00:26Z")
They tore down Spandau Prison, didn’t they? Pity, that. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5129 "2020-10-18T17:02:41Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > That last phrase should have been “members of his administration.” But also his family, a lot of members of Congress, and influential people outside Washington too if they’ve committed crimes, of whom I suppose there are more than a few. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5130 "2020-10-18T17:27:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …I have spared myself the sound of his voice for these four years. 🙂 Hell, I want some kind of a badge for that! Yeah I’ll line up for one of those badges too. Other than the morbidly curious, the outright masochistic, and the reverently doltish, it’s always astounded me how anyone could possibly listen to the compulsive liar. For a second. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5131 "2020-10-18T17:33:53Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > They tore down Spandau Prison, didn’t they? Pity, that. Yes, they did. I hear that they used the site for a ballet in the 1980s. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5132 "2020-10-18T17:34:57Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > [@silenus](#): > > > > They tore down Spandau Prison, didn’t they? Pity, that. > > Yes, they did. I hear that they used the site for a ballet in the 1980s. 😉 . I can confirm that’s True. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5133 "2020-10-18T17:42:56Z")
🙄 ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5134 "2020-10-18T17:46:16Z")
Tiffany gets flamed for celebrating her birthday week unmasked in Miami, then gets dissed when big sis Ivanka tries to send a birthday tweet but doesn’t actually know Tiffany’s Twitter handle and sends it to the wrong account. > **[Tiffany Trump becomes campaign liability after Miami birthday bash during...](https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/10/16/tiffany-trump-becomes-campaign-liability-after-miami-birthday-bash-during-covid-19/)** > > With anti-Trump ad promoting #ByeTiffany, people have been sharing stories about loved ones they lost and celebrations they’ve missed because of pandemic. > **[Twitter Reacts To Ivanka Trump Tagging Wrong Tiffany Trump In Birthday Post](https://www.ibtimes.com/ivanka-trump-tags-wrong-tiffany-trump-while-wishing-sister-happy-birthday-twitter-3063620)** > > On Tuesday, Ivanka Trump sent her sister Tiffany Trump a birthday message on Twitter, along with a throwback picture of them. However, she accidentally tagged the wrong account in the post. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5135 "2020-10-18T17:50:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@tripthicket](#): > > > > I am so ready for this thread to be permanently closed that my teeth itch. > > No. Fucking. Joke. > > It’s been an interminably long four ~~thousand~~ years. > > We do need to permanently lock this thread when the election results are formally declared. Maybe have a Zoom GTG with beverages and snacks (provided for oneself, of course). I suppose, but then we really need to have a thread along the lines of “Trump: The Aftermath”. There might be some exciting developments to discuss like the Orange Imbecile (a) being forcibly removed from the White House, and/or (b) trying to flee the country in disguise with a fake passport, etc. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I READ what he says, but I have spared myself the sound of his voice for these four years. 🙂 Hell, I want some kind of a badge for that! Sometimes, an accomplishment itself is its own reward! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5136 "2020-10-18T17:55:07Z")
Oh course there’s going to be massive cheating. I don’t doubt it for second. I’m sure small town county officials all over rural America are adding fake voters to their rolls en masse and will continue to do so. Voter registrations of new Republican voters has far outpaced the registration of new Democratic voters and I’m sure it will continue to do so. I doubt they are all real but as long as the small rural governments close ranks they’ll never get caught. I’m hope I’m wrong but I don’t think I am. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5137 "2020-10-18T18:01:51Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > They tore down Spandau Prison, didn’t they? Pity, that. I believe Auschwitz is still standing. ARBEIT MACHT FREI. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=255) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=257)