# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 270
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5398 "2020-10-24T04:05:38Z")
“We’ve turned a corner” says a guy whose office is oval. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5399 "2020-10-24T04:30:52Z")
You’ll note he didn’t specify _which_ corner has been turned. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5400 "2020-10-24T07:12:14Z")
[Note the sudden change of expression on Loser Donald’s face when he hears Biden say the word “cocaine”.](https://twitter.com/MelissaWrites22/status/1319464593287204864) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5401 "2020-10-24T11:21:43Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Note the sudden change of expression on Loser Donald’s face when he hears Biden say the word “cocaine”…](https://twitter.com/MelissaWrites22/status/1319464593287204864) Pavlov would be proud. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5402 "2020-10-24T14:41:57Z")
Jarvanka have their undies in a twist over a couple of Times Square billboards placed by the Lincoln Project: [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/522562-ivanka-trump-jared-kushers-lawyer-threatens-to-sue-lincoln-project](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/522562-ivanka-trump-jared-kushers-lawyer-threatens-to-sue-lincoln-project) > Attorneys for [Ivanka Trump](https://thehill.com/people/ivana-ivanka-trump) and [Jared Kushner](https://thehill.com/people/jared-kushner) threatened to sue The Lincoln Project, a prominent Republican group opposing the president, for billboards it put up in Times Square in Manhattan. > > The attorneys in a letter to The Lincoln Project complained about one billboard showing Trump, a senior adviser to her father, smiling and gesturing next to figures showing over 33,000 New Yorkers and 221,000 Americans have died from the coronavirus. The lawyers also cited a billboard featuring Kushner, another senior White House adviser, next to body bags and an unrelated 2019 quote from before the pandemic in which he said New Yorkers would “suffer.”… The opening one-word response: > > Nuts! (Bets on whether either of them have a clue about the significance of the word in this context?) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5403 "2020-10-24T14:50:50Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > Nuts! > > (Bets on whether either of them have a clue about the significance of the word in this context?) - Daddy? ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5404 "2020-10-24T15:03:06Z")
I’d take 5 to 1 with the Lincoln P people knowing. (And really think it’s closer to 20 to 1, but I’m a conservative gambler.) I wouldn’t be surprised if Kushner knew. I’d be very surprised in Donnie knew. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5405 "2020-10-24T15:17:24Z")
Of course the Lincoln Project people know. I think the chance that anyone in the Trump family has the foggiest idea is close to zero. > **[The story of the NUTS! reply](https://www.army.mil/article/92856/the_story_of_the_nuts_reply)** > > This story retraces the events of December 22nd, 1944 at Bastogne, Belgium, the day we received German surrender ultimatum and issued the subsequent TLDR version: General McAuliffe’s reply when asked to surrender Bastogne while surrounded by Germans at the Battle of the Bulge. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5406 "2020-10-24T15:45:23Z")
This looks like a good place to put a Daily Show piece, Donald J. Trump: [The Greatest President in History of All Time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7FvR8hkr6w). ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5407 "2020-10-24T17:01:05Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > > > Nuts! > > > > (Bets on whether either of them have a clue about the significance of the word in this context?) - > > Daddy? I suspect it’s more in line with [Anthony McAuliffe’s response to the Germans asking for his surrender during the Battle of the Bulge](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anthony_McAuliffe) I suspect Trump’s camp, like the Germans, will need help making a proper translation. Ninja’d! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5408 "2020-10-24T17:29:38Z")
Somewhere I saw a graphic – from RCP, I think – where respondents were asked to rate the candidates based on what they considered the most important issue in the election. Most of the ratings favored Biden, but one struck me as odd. For respondents who considered the Economy to be the most important issue, they favored CFSG by something like 84/16. I mean, WTELF?? Are these people wallstreet brokers and high financiers? I consider the economy to be the fundament of the country (pun intended) and I think CFSG is catastrophic. What is wrong with people? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5409 "2020-10-24T17:55:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “We’ve turned a corner” says a guy whose office is oval. It may be an oval but he still has managed to paint himself into a corner… ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5410 "2020-10-24T18:09:40Z")
Individual 1 seems to be ginning up a war between Egypt and Ethiopia. > **[Trump comment on 'blowing up' Nile Dam angers Ethiopia](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54674313.amp)** > > Its PM condemns "aggressions" after Donald Trump says Egypt might destroy a controversial Nile dam. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5411 "2020-10-24T21:08:22Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 seems to be ginning up a war between Egypt and Ethiopia. No, in this case just stating the bleeding obvious. That dam is an existential threat to Egypt. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5412 "2020-10-24T23:56:19Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I suspect Trump’s camp, like the Germans, will need help making a proper translation. You mean, he is using code words that aren’t in their language? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5413 "2020-10-25T00:28:14Z")
Individual 1 says people are saying Mexico isn’t paying for the wall because the wall is finished. > ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5414 "2020-10-25T01:03:30Z")
I watched that 20 second clip and I have no idea what Trump said other than “they don’t know what to do”; everything else was just incomprehensible garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5415 "2020-10-25T03:56:12Z")
Pence’s chief of staff tests positive. > **[White House’s top ranks hit with new round of coronavirus cases](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/24/pences-chief-of-staff-tests-positive-coronavirus-432157)** > > Pence’s office said in a statement that the vice president tested negative Saturday, when Marc Short was diagnosed. And so has Pence advisor Marty Obst. > **[Pence adviser Marty Obst tests positive for coronavirus | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/24/politics/marty-obst-mike-pence-coronavirus/index.html)** > > A top adviser to Vice President Mike Pence tested positive for coronavirus earlier this week, a source familiar with the matter told CNN. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5416 "2020-10-25T04:21:04Z")
The Lincoln Project’s lawyer has responded to Jared and Ivanka’s threat to sue over the Times Square billboards. The response is every bit as gangsta as you would hope: > **[‘Peddle Your Scare Tactics Elsewhere,’ Lincoln Project Lawyers Shoot Back at...](https://news.yahoo.com/peddle-scare-tactics-elsewhere-lincoln-021744948.html)** > > Legal threats from Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner aimed at the Lincoln Project’s Time Square billboards that associates them with the Trump administration’s failed COVID-19 response isn’t scaring the anti-Trump organization one bit.“Please peddle... ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5417 "2020-10-25T05:27:00Z")
The NY Times is saying that 3 other VP staffers have also tested positive and that Mark Meadows tried to keep it all quiet. Pence, who surely has been exposed, is supposedly going to continue his campaign schedule. It wouldn’t surprise me if he announces tomorrow that he is positive, too. > [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=269) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=271)