# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 275
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5500 "2020-10-28T04:15:40Z")
I don’t think that’s the right interpretation. There’s a CT on the right that Biden is a trojan horse to get Kamala and The Squad in power. Trump is just feeding that theory. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5501 "2020-10-28T04:17:15Z")
To be fair, Democrats do this too. Romney was hammered for being too conservative. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5502 "2020-10-28T04:27:30Z")
[pretzels](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54710200) it hurts my head > [@](#): > > In a lawsuit, (E. Jean Carroll) argues the president defamed her when he denied her claim and said she was “totally lying”. > > The DoJ had sought to put itself in the dock as defendant, instead of Mr Trump. Citing a law designed to protect federal employees from being sued over actions stemming from the performance of their duties, the department argued that **he was serving in his capacity as president when he denied Ms Carroll’s allegation**. I mean, fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5503 "2020-10-28T04:48:05Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Good news everyody-- the trump admin has officially ended the pandemic!! I like how they’re quoting that well known epidemiologist, Ivanka Trump. “Over the past four years, President Trump’s policies and investments in science and technology ensure America stands ready to solve today’s most pressing challenges and that our workforce is prepared for tomorrow’s innovations,” Ivanka Trump said. “For years to come, these achievements will guarantee the United States remains the world’s leader in research, discovery and the advancement of industries that will shape our future.” ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5504 "2020-10-28T04:55:55Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@Morgyn](#): > > > > > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > > > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > > > > > Whether Trump is sitting in a no-extradition country or in the USA awaiting trial, he will continue tweeting away nonstop. > > > > > > No he won’t. He would have been kicked off Twitter for TOS violations long ago if he weren’t occupying the White House; unless he changes his behavior (fat chance) he’ll lose his access in short order. > > > > Plus, if he were in a US jail, he wouldn’t be allowed a phone. > > I did say “awaiting trial.” I’m in the camp that believes Trump won’t see the inside of either a jail or a prison. (I’d bet he flees the country unless given credible promises of having his sentence commuted.) > > If he flees, it certainly is possible that Twitter would bar him from its platform. I don’t think that’s likely, though. Yes, he will probably be given less leeway than he enjoys now. But Trump has always followed mob-boss rules: he says stuff that’s just this side of illegality. He’s indirect and employs innuendo. He won’t say ‘followers, please shoot Biden’ even if he’s no longer President. > > Look at the way he framed his ‘will no one rid me of this turbulent rival’ request today: > > > [@](#): > > > > Donald Trump: Joe Biden, Kamala, do you like Kamala? Do you like her to be your vice-president? I don’t know. If he gets elected, three weeks into his presidency, they’ll say, “Kamala, you’re ready? Let’s go.” That’s why they’re talking about the … That’s why they’re talking about the 25th amendment, right? Three weeks. **Three weeks in, Joe’s shot,** “Let’s go Kamala, are you get ready?” Most liberal person in the Senate. > > > > She makes Bernie Sanders look like a serious conservative. This will not be … We can’t let it happen. This will not be the first woman president. > > [https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-rally-speech-transcript-lansing-michigan-october-27](https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-rally-speech-transcript-lansing-michigan-october-27) > > Trump’s defense here would be something like ‘I was telling them how terrible it would be if Kamala became President.’ The fact that he’s clearly fantasizing about Joe Biden getting shot—‘putting that idea out there,’ as it were—would be waved aside. > > That’s how he’d continue to do things on Twitter, should he be expelled from the Presidency. They wouldn’t ban him just because he’s Donald Trump; there would have to be an overt act on his part that justified it. > > (Obviously my bolding in the speech transcript.) I interpreted “Joe’s shot” a totally different way. I didn’t see it as a literal reference to Biden actually being killed. I interpreted it as a slang term meaning due for replacement. Much like how someone might say “my brakes are shot” about a car that needs repair. I hate having to defend Trump at all, but I think you had the wrong meaning here. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5505 "2020-10-28T05:07:25Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I interpreted “Joe’s shot” a totally different way. > > I didn’t see it as a literal reference to Biden actually being killed. I interpreted it as a slang term meaning due for replacement. Much like how someone might say “my brakes are shot” about a car that needs repair. > > I hate having to defend Trump at all, but I think you had the wrong meaning here. As much as I am loath to admit it, that was my read too. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5506 "2020-10-28T05:40:46Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I interpreted “Joe’s shot” a totally different way. Ah, but how do you suppose all the MAGA-heads and Proud Boys and 3-percenters, etc., interpret when they hear that? Dog-whistle, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5507 "2020-10-28T07:37:30Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I interpreted “Joe’s shot” a totally different way. > > I didn’t see it as a literal reference to Biden actually being killed. I interpreted it as a slang term meaning due for replacement. Much like how someone might say “my brakes are shot” about a car that needs repair. > > I hate having to defend Trump at all, but I think you had the wrong meaning here. I think you give Loser Donald too much credit. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5508 "2020-10-28T07:54:45Z")
That’s certainly possible. I’m no fan of his, but I do think he’s capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. He may not possess a great deal of book smarts, but he can be quite cunning at times. Look at the way he’s systematically undermined the basic tenets of democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5509 "2020-10-28T08:48:28Z")
In the same way a bull systematically destroys a china shop. It’s the people who put him there that are the ones with the strategy of destruction; all he has to do is be himself and chaos ensues. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5510 "2020-10-28T09:48:23Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > I don’t think that’s the right interpretation. There’s a CT on the right that Biden is a trojan horse to get Kamala and The Squad in power. Trump is just feeding that theory Right, but the bizarre part (well, one of them) is in linking Harris to the Squad. The only connection is that they’re women of color, so the assumption of a link is predicated on some amount of racism and misogyny. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5511 "2020-10-28T11:33:05Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Right, but the bizarre part (well, one of them) is in linking Harris to the Squad. The only connection is that they’re women of color, so the assumption of a link is predicated on some amount of racism and misogyny.- Well, yeah. Of course all ~~Black~~ non-white women are alike, think alike, dress alike, wear their hair the same (or cover it up), and move, talk, and vote in one unified block. The fact that Michelle Obama isn’t like them is conclusive proof that Michelle is really a man. Q.E.D. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5512 "2020-10-28T11:51:09Z")
My God. Trump’s rally in Omaha last night had them bus hundreds of people 3.7 miles from the parking lot to the rally location. But the Trump team made no plans on getting them back, stranding them. Many attempted to walk back, but in the end, at least 7 people were transported to the hospital, dozens had to be treated for hypothermia, and the Omaha PD had to order buses from the Omaha transit authority to assist these people. Linked is a tweet thread from someone monitoring the Omaha police scanner. Pretty crazy shit! > > ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5513 "2020-10-28T12:11:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump’s rally in Omaha last night had them bus hundreds of people 3.7 miles from the parking lot to the rally location. > > But the Trump team made no plans on getting them back, stranding them. Many attempted to walk back, but in the end, at least 7 people were transported to the hospital, dozens had to be treated for hypothermia, and the Omaha PD had to order buses from the Omaha transit authority to assist these people. This encapsulates this presidency in some many ways. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5514 "2020-10-28T12:28:21Z")
An attendee from trump’s Omaha rally had no comment… ![](https://media1.tenor.com/images/e54295364390057f7482f2966e2a4cd0/tenor.gif?itemid=5390133) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5515 "2020-10-28T12:45:23Z")
They will still vote for him. Assuming they survive his rally. ---
**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5516 "2020-10-28T13:00:04Z")
Or didn’t catch COVID or another bug after being crammed in the bus and the rally with a bunch of unmasked people who were screaming and hollering. They will blame some lackey for poor planning instead of blaming Trump for not giving a shit about them once they stopped cheering and making him feel good about himself. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5517 "2020-10-28T13:22:02Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > # [Trump’s pitch to women on coronavirus recovery: ‘We’re getting your husbands back to work’](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-pitch-to-women-on-coronavirus-recovery-were-getting-your-husbands-back-to-work/ar-BB1arZhi?li=BBnb7Kz) > > I mean…this IS dumb, right? > > "We’re gonna get your husbands back to work, because they are the workers. Not you, of course, because you have vaginas and are obviously not bread winners or major contributors to the household income… " I’m curious (and couldn’t find the answer in a cursory search) whether women are less likely to be a primary income generator in self-identified conservative households. My uninformed suspicion is that the image of the strong male figure taking care of the women-folk, which is still embraced overtly and covertly across the political spectrum and across genders, thrives much more strongly among conservatives/Republicans than others. So, yes. Maybe not so crudely, but that’s actually how lots of people, men and women, feel. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5518 "2020-10-28T13:29:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > But the Trump team made no plans on getting them back, stranding them. If this Washington Post article is correct, it’s not that the campaign made no plans for getting them back; it’s that the road was throttled to one-way after the rally in order to let people out, but this meant that the buses couldn’t get back in to pick people up. I’m assuming it’s the local police who make those sorts of traffic decisions, but it’s not clear from the article who’s to blame. > **[Hundreds of Trump supporters stuck in the cold for hours when buses can’t...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/28/trump-omaha-supporters-stuck-cold/)** > > For hours, Trump supporters — including many elderly people — stood in the cold as police scrambled to help those most at risk. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5519 "2020-10-28T13:30:43Z")
Can’t wait for 11.8.2020 when Google pics, Facebook, etc all ask me to ‘remember this day four years ago’. 🤮 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=274) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=276)