# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 277
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5540 "2020-10-28T14:19:59Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Just thought of something. If all those buses were there waiting to take people back, why did the police have to call in local transit buses? And how’d those transit buses get there if the roads to the airport were all one-way outbound? ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5541 "2020-10-28T15:10:56Z")
Holy shit! That’s pathetic and evil. Well, of course it is, that’s just Trump. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5542 "2020-10-28T15:11:32Z")
Perhaps they did the 1-way route change so trnup motorcade could return to the airport as a caravan? ps from the scanner report " frozen and cold with an altered mental status". …what a rally. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5543 "2020-10-28T15:17:13Z")
I just read a report about this, and it’s even worse than I had heard. A lot of Trump supporters were elderly. Some of them had to be taken away in ambulances. It sometimes seems as if Trump is trying to kill off his base. Why drag them out into the cold and dark without adequate transportation _in the middle of a pandemic_ that’s hitting that area particularly hard? Luring the vulnerable out into a situation that’s perfect for lowering their resistance is downright criminal. I’ll bet most of them weren’t even wearing masks. > **[When Team Trump (literally) leaves its supporters out in the cold](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-team-trump-literally-leaves-its-supporters-out-cold-n1245082)** > > I can appreciate a good metaphor as much as the next political writer, but Trump literally left his supporters out in the cold and in the dark? ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5544 "2020-10-28T15:23:23Z")
I guess unmarried women who have to work to support themselves are not a group he is courting. We’re more likely to be crazy flaming liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5545 "2020-10-28T15:31:38Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > It sometimes seems as if Trump is trying to kill off his base. Why drag them out into the cold and dark without adequate transportation _in the middle of a pandemic_ that’s hitting that area particularly hard? It’s part of their election strategy. They kill off their own supporters, and that PROVES Obama wore a tan suit once. MAGA!!! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5546 "2020-10-28T15:41:56Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > And how’d those transit buses get there if the roads to the airport were all one-way outbound? His nibs drew an inbound road on the map with a Sharpie – problem solved… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5547 "2020-10-28T15:41:58Z")
Of course, packing them all onto busses in the middle of a pandemic is not really the best of ideas either. But then, it’s only a week till the election, most of them should survive that long, even if they die of Covid a week later. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5548 "2020-10-28T16:20:37Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > But if the story is true, it seems that they did have a plan to bus them back, and the buses were there; they just couldn’t make the trip back out to the venue to pick up more passengers after the first load, because the road was made one-way. So, they had a plan that ignored the reality on the ground, they failed to coordinate with the people actually responsible for controlling traffic flow, and had no fall back options. Yeah, that’s a pretty good example of a “clusterfuck”. Par for the course with these guys, of course. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5549 "2020-10-28T16:40:00Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > It sometimes seems as if Trump is trying to kill off his base. Why drag them out into the cold and dark without adequate transportation _in the middle of a pandemic_ that’s hitting that area particularly hard? Luring the vulnerable out into a situation that’s perfect for lowering their resistance is downright criminal. **I’ll bet most of them weren’t even wearing masks.** And sure enough… > [@](#): > > Thousands of people packed Trump’s outdoor rally in Omaha on Tuesday. **Though the campaign checked attendees’ temperatures and provided them with masks, many people in the crowd opted not to wear them** , prompting concerns over the possibility of the coronavirus spreading. Highlighting mine > **[Hundreds Of Trump Supporters Waited Hours In The Cold For Buses After Omaha...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-omaha-rallygoers-waited-hours_n_5f995e42c5b6aab57a0e33e4)** > > Several people reportedly required medical attention as the temperature dipped below freezing. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5550 "2020-10-28T16:40:07Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > and had no fall back options. Not true. They successfully implemented the plan of taking no responsibility and blaming their failure on someone else. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5551 "2020-10-28T16:41:55Z")
Please wake me when things have gotten normal again. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5552 "2020-10-28T16:56:34Z")
You and Rip Van Winkle. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5553 "2020-10-28T16:57:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Not true. > > They successfully implemented the plan of taking no responsibility and blaming their failure on someone else. Ah yes, how silly of me not to have applied the principle of charity to their performance. I stand corrected! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5554 "2020-10-28T16:57:39Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Please wake me when things have gotten normal again. You simply need to adjust your definition of “normal”. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5555 "2020-10-28T17:00:54Z")
Unexpected candor from the Prince of Lies: > [@](#): > > “I probably wouldn’t be standing out here in the freezing rain with you,” he told a crowd of hearty souls who had been standing for hours in persistent drizzle to hear him speak. “I’d be home in the White House, doing whatever the hell I was doing. I wouldn’t be out here.” “…doing whatever the hell I was doing…” Does even _he_ not know what it was > [@](#): > > “We win Wisconsin, we win the whole ballgame,” he said last week on yet another frigid airport tarmac, this time in Janesville. “What the hell do you think I’m doing here on a freezing night with 45-degree winds?” > > “Do you think I’m doing this for my health?” he continued as the temperature dropped and some of the crowd began trickling out. “I’m not doing this for my health.” Or the health of his followers either, evidentl. > [@](#): > > “By the way, nice trucks,” he said to no one in particular on yet another airport tarmac. “You think I could hop into one of them and drive it away?” > > “I’d love to just drive the hell out of here. Just get the hell out of this,” he went on. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/trump-election-2020-insults/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/trump-election-2020-insults/index.html) I swear, it’s as if he’s trying to drive his supporters away, insult them, and subject them to cold and disease. He throws people in office who kowtow to him under the bus. Why the _hell_ do people continue to support this guy? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5556 "2020-10-28T17:04:50Z")
Again, abuse dynamics. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5557 "2020-10-28T17:06:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Here’s an[exchange](https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1321435418987024384) that happened between CNN’s Alisyn Camerota and Trump campaign national press secretary Hogan Gidley on the same day that the United States reported its [highest seven-day rolling average of cases](https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1321434457388257284)since the start of the coronavirus pandemic: > > _ **Camerota** _ _: Well, let’s talk about acting responsibly. I mean, just again with Wisconsin, are you at all concerned given that there has been an outbreak in the vice president’s orbit of people around him and that there is currently an outbreak – I mean, hospitals in Wisconsin are near capacity. And so is there – does that give you any pause or the vice president any pause about going there and holding a big rally?_ > > _ **Gidley** _ _: No, it doesn’t. The vice president has the best doctors in the world around him, they’ve obviously contact-traced and have come to the conclusion it’s fine for him to be out on the campaign trail._ > > Uh, that was not the question, dude. > > Camerota wasn’t only asking Gidley if it was safe for Vice President Mike Pence to hold a [rally at the Central Wisconsin airport](https://waow.com/2020/10/26/trump-pence-both-coming-to-wisconsin-this-week/) on Wednesday afternoon. She was asking him whether it was safe for the thousands of attendees, given Wisconsin’s emergence as a hotspot for the virus. > > … > > That Gidley sought first and foremost to reassure Camerota that “the vice president has the best doctors in the world around him” speaks to how selfishly the Trump administration views this virus. And how tone-deaf their response continues to be. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/hogan-gidley-trump-campaign-coronavirus-covid-19/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/hogan-gidley-trump-campaign-coronavirus-covid-19/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5558 "2020-10-28T17:17:40Z")
This ~week prior to Election Day is taking approximately a gazillion years. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5559 "2020-10-28T17:23:53Z")
The week after will likely be even longer… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=276) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=278)