# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 279
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5580 "2020-10-28T19:17:37Z")
I’m not saying that cold weather causes colds. I don’t actually know of anyone who says that. But it certainly can lower your resistance to falling ill from infections that you do catch. > [@](#): > > But the bottom line is that cold doesn’t cause illness, although weather or other factors may weaken your ability to fight off illness. > **[Improve Your Health IQ: Does Cold Weather Make You Sick?](https://www.healthline.com/health/does-cold-weather-make-you-sick#culprits)** > > Does cold weather really make you sick? Learn why cold weather gets a bad rap and what culprits you should really be wary of. > [@](#): > > Scientists may finally be able to confirm the widely-held suspicion that bad weather can make you sick. > > While the common cold’s name seems to imply that cold weather is responsible for the nose-running, throat-burning misery, the scientific community has been unable to establish exactly how a chill in the air might lead to the sniffles—until now. Just last week, a team of scientists from Yale University announced their discovery that lower temperatures weaken the nose’s first line of immune defenses. > **[Scientists show how cold weather makes you sick](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/scientists-finally-prove-cold-weather-makes-sick/)** > > They may finally be able to confirm the widely-held suspicion ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5581 "2020-10-28T19:18:42Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What if we have the galley send out some cherries in milk? > > It’s worth a try. You really think he would actually eat fruit? ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5582 "2020-10-28T19:19:11Z")
Just did a little googling and found that there is a doctor in Wales studying this who hypothesizes that being in cold weather causes nasal vascular constriction which may make it easier to catch a cold. > **[Acute cooling of the feet and the onset of common cold symptoms](https://academic.oup.com/fampra/article/22/6/608/497956)** > > Abstract. Background. There is a common folklore that chilling of the body surface causes the development of common cold symptoms, but previous clinical researc However, here is a good summary of all of the previous studies showing that being cold and wet does not increase your risk of catching a cold. > **['You'll Catch Your Death!' An Old Wives' Tale? Well . . . (Published 2003)](https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/04/science/you-ll-catch-your-death-an-old-wives-tale-well.html)** ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5583 "2020-10-28T19:20:12Z")
Odd, duplicate, weird… ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5584 "2020-10-28T19:29:55Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > What if we have the galley send out some cherries in milk? > > > > It’s worth a try. > > You really think he would actually eat fruit? Tell him they’re cherry-flavored candy. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5585 "2020-10-28T19:59:00Z")
Or gumballs, because Sleepy Joe accused him of not being able to walk and chew gum at the same time… ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5586 "2020-10-28T20:14:14Z")
> [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](#): > > frozen and cold with an altered mental status". That they went **to** a Trump rally shows that they already had an _altered mental status_. Pick your diagnostic code. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5587 "2020-10-28T20:15:14Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I mean, fuck. Yes, that is what she is alleging. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5588 "2020-10-28T20:20:28Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > To be fair, Democrats do this too. Romney was hammered for being too conservative. But I don’t recall, and haven’t found evidence of, Democrats describing Romney as “the most conservative person in the Senate”, which would have been just as absurd as calling Harris “the most liberal person in the Senate”. It’s the Republicans’ ritualistic application of the superlative “most liberal” to the current national-ticket Democratic opponent, irrespective of where his/her policies actually fall on the ideological spectrum, that seems weird to me. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5589 "2020-10-28T20:57:29Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > From the [Washington Post article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/28/trump-omaha-supporters-stuck-cold/): > **_The Trump campaign said_ it had provided enough buses but traffic on the two-lane road outside the airport was throttled to one direction after the rally** , tweeted Aaron Sanderford, a political reporter at the Omaha World-Herald. **The campaign didn’t immediately respond to a message from The Post early on Wednesday.** I’m still not buying this as the actual cause of the problem after the Omaha rally until it’s verified by people _outside_ of the Trump campaign. It sounds way too much like they’re putting the blame on somebody else instead of admitting they fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5590 "2020-10-28T21:31:37Z")
There’s no excuse for this kind of incompetency, a political campaign at this level is supposed to have a grip on this kind of logistics. I once worked at a caberet type theatre at a location near an airport, where the only access was a narrow country road. One night, a performer had a serious medical emergency and the show was cancelled. They held the audience there, plying them with free food and drinks, until medical help arrived and the actor left in an ambulance because they knew that if everyone tried to drive out at once, they would impede the ambulance. I used to work in the event industry and although I didn’t handle this kind of logistics, IIRC it’s not that hard. You get all your transportation in place outside the venue while the event is in progress so you aren’t fighting the traffic after the event ends. It’s really really freaking basic. It’s so basic it makes me wonder how they screwed it up. You’d think the buses that dropped the people off at the rally could’ve just stuck around until the end. Unless they didn’t want to pay them for the extra 3 hours or so, which is the kind of penny wise pound foolish behavior I’d expect from Trumpers. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5591 "2020-10-28T21:40:11Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > It’s so basic it makes me wonder how they screwed it up. You’d think the buses that dropped the people off at the rally could’ve just stuck around until the end. Unless they didn’t want to pay them for the extra 3 hours or so, which is the kind of penny wise pound foolish behavior I’d expect from Trumpers. - It’s also possible that they were running the buses round trip, each making multiple runs and there weren’t enough for the whole crowd at once after the rally. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5592 "2020-10-28T21:58:21Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@Deeg](#): > > > > To be fair, Democrats do this too. Romney was hammered for being too conservative. > > But I don’t recall, and haven’t found evidence of, Democrats describing Romney as “the most conservative person in the Senate”, which would have been just as absurd as calling Harris “the most liberal person in the Senate”. Ah yes, but “both sides” ya know. It’s only fair to mention “both sides” do it, otherwise, how can one be a militant centrist? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5593 "2020-10-28T22:10:40Z")
That didn’t really bother me. He’s still a Republican so I can’t expect him to vote for the rival party, I’m just glad that he hasn’t completely swallowed the kool-aide. I’ve never voted for him and likely never will since at this point s the best way to keep the Republican’s from destroying America, voting straight D party line. Although if a truly reprehensible Democratic candidate (e.g. Marion Barry) were nominated I might consider voting for a Hogan-like Republican. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5594 "2020-10-28T22:18:26Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Presumably the Republican campaign is banking on the expectation that their voters have forgotten any actual facts about specific policies that Sanders advocates, and will not notice how absurd it is to claim that Harris is more liberal than he is. They don’t seem to have noticed the absurdity of the previous “most liberal Senator” claims, after all. “Presumably the Republican campaign is banking on the expectation that their voters have forgotten any actual facts” is about all that needs to be said. You can just stop there. This has been the case for at least a generation now. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5595 "2020-10-28T22:42:45Z")
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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5596 "2020-10-28T23:08:23Z")
What a bunch of weenies here talking about hypothermia. Do you know only 1500 people die each year of hypothermia in the US? You’re living in fear of something 99.9995% of the population won’t die from. I bet some of the people last night were wearing coats too. Idiots. People die from hypothermia even with coats. Coats don’t work! Bunch of god damn sheep. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5597 "2020-10-28T23:25:02Z")
I prefer supporters who don’t die. Losers. Sad. Weak. That’s what they signed up for when they got on the bus, (also the NDAs and heath waivers). Also, stop testing for heart beats. Fake deaths. No testing and death will be over in two weeks, We have a plan, a great best plan. No death. Soon as the weather turns warmer. Soon as the weather turns colder. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5598 "2020-10-28T23:40:50Z")
Does he even know _how_ to drive? Much less a clutch? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5599 "2020-10-28T23:52:57Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > What a bunch of weenies here talking about hypothermia. Do you know only 1500 people die each year of hypothermia in the US? You’re living in fear of something 99.9995% of the population won’t die from. > > I bet some of the people last night were wearing coats too. Idiots. People die from hypothermia even with coats. Coats don’t work! Bunch of god damn sheep. You will be getting a call very soon offering you the job of DJT’s Press Secretary. You’ve mastered party-speak. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=278) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=280)