# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 287
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5740 "2020-10-30T20:23:46Z")
From the “Everything Trump Touches Dies” Department: > **[Van Drew's defection to GOP haunts him in tight race](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/29/van-drew-defection-gop-race-433614)** > > Trump's sagging approval ratings may bring down the New Jersey party-switcher. > Fearing Democrats’ impeachment push would end his career in a southern New Jersey district won by President Donald Trump, Rep. Jeff Van Drew dropped the “D” next to his name and joined the GOP. > But nearly one year and a global pandemic later, Van Drew’s pledge to give his “undying support” to Trump could end up sinking the freshman lawmaker… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5741 "2020-10-30T20:38:58Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > How it started… > > [https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjA57DEUj88acqvd6](https://photos.app.goo.gl/YjA57DEUj88acqvd6) > > How it’s going… > > [https://photos.app.goo.gl/areJPf41HjWC2PyZ8](https://photos.app.goo.gl/areJPf41HjWC2PyZ8) Both versions of this imbecile look equally clueless. Don Jr and Eric would be ideal for a live-action version of _Beavis and Butthead_. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5742 "2020-10-30T21:57:02Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Both versions of this imbecile look equally clueless. Don Jr and Eric would be ideal for a live-action version of _Beavis and Butthead_ . I think the point of the comparison was to show how haggard and drug-damaged he became in 4 years, but I can understand how when you look at him you see nothing but stupid. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5743 "2020-10-30T22:38:39Z")
> **[Madame Tussauds in Berlin dumps Trump before U.S. election](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tussauds-berlin/madame-tussauds-in-berlin-dumps-trump-before-u-s-election-idUSKBN27F2BA?il=0)** > > The waxwork museum Madame Tussauds in Berlin loaded its effigy of TV star-turned Republican president Donald Trump into a dumpster on Friday, a move apparently intended to reflect its expectations of next Tuesday's presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5744 "2020-10-30T22:52:44Z")
The final couple seconds, there, as he’s “turning the corner”, priceless. ETA: especially with the painting backdrop of the kissing dude ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5745 "2020-10-30T23:18:03Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tussauds-berlin/madame-tussauds-in-berlin-dumps-trump-before-u-s-election-idUSKBN27F2BA?il=0](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tussauds-berlin/madame-tussauds-in-berlin-dumps-trump-before-u-s-election-idUSKBN27F2BA?il=0) Since it’s made of wax, and they put it into a dumpster, surely they could have inserted a wick into the wax imitation orange marmoset thing on top of its head and lit it on fire. A literal dumpster fire with a giant orange wax candle would be quite a fitting sight. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5746 "2020-10-30T23:53:28Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > surely they could have inserted a wick into the wax imitation orange marmoset thing on top of its head and lit it on fire I was thinking that someone could test it’s use as a life sized voodoo doll. Hypothetically. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5747 "2020-10-31T00:05:08Z")
I think you have to have a body part for that to work. Traditionally hair or nails or drops of blood. Pretty certain the Secret Service would have prevented the collection of any of that, particularly the blood. Too bad. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5748 "2020-10-31T00:26:42Z")
That made my evening! 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5749 "2020-10-31T00:32:08Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Since it’s made of wax, and they put it into a dumpster, surely they could have inserted a wick into the wax imitation orange marmoset thing on top of its head and lit it on fire. Come on, you know very well they do not use wax. The figures for years have been formed using left over comp B. Lighting it on fire would be inadvisable. Indoors, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5750 "2020-10-31T00:38:14Z")
I’m assuming that this must have been discussed somewhere on this site. But I can’t find any such discussion, so will post this here; I’m talking, of course, about the Melania Body Double update. The BD conspiracy theory had rested on one, and only one, photograph of the supposed BD with a wide smile as she got out of an aircraft. And I agree with those who’ve said that photo is of the actual Melania and not a double. But this new video—of Trump and a woman kissing repeatedly at one of his rallies—is actually rather convincing. It’s not just their behavior. It’s the face the woman turns to the camera…it does appear to be the face of someone other than Melania Trump: > **[The Internet’s Belief In A ‘Fake Melania’ Grew After A Trump Rally](https://uproxx.com/viral/donald-trump-kissing-melania-reactions/)** > > The theory has been deemed false by fact checkers, but video of an appearance on Friday got people talking about the wild conspiracy theory. The link has the still photo, but look at the video–when she turns it seems even clearer. I mean, it _could_ be Melania…maybe she’s had a recent round of Botox, and that’s why it doesn’t look like her??? So, would it matter if Donald is trying to bamboozle people into thinking his wife likes him, by employing a double for her? In the scale of Trumpian outrages, this one probably can’t gain much prominence. Still…weird. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5751 "2020-10-31T00:42:12Z")
I don’t believe it but I love this one- me: god will you people stop with the conspiracy theories you’re being ridiculous also me: motherfucker that is not melania not even close But it is > **[Melania Trump misleads on Trump's health care record in joint campaign stop |...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/melania-trump-affordable-care-act-record/index.html)** > > First lady Melania Trump pitched President Donald Trump as a tireless warrior for health care at a rally on Thursday, claiming that health care for every citizen is his priority, even though his administration has worked to dismantle the Affordable... ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5752 "2020-10-31T00:44:07Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > I don’t believe it but I love this one- > > me: god will you people stop with the conspiracy theories you’re being ridiculous > > also me: motherfucker that is not melania not even close . Well, yeah. Time spent on conspiracy theories just isn’t time well-spent. I’m still thinking it’s the “Botox” explanation. She really doesn’t look like herself. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5753 "2020-10-31T00:45:50Z")
I think you missed by edit. The women in the video looks just like the other pics. Maybe Botox, maybe she lost some weight ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5754 "2020-10-31T00:48:07Z")
Yeah, I did miss it when I replied. But obviously if the person spoke and sounded like Melania, it pretty much has to be Melania. Could be a change in weight, as you say. New hairstyle too, maybe? That original video (from today) is very odd, though. That kissy-face thing…creepy, and not what we expect from Her Imperial Whateverness. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5755 "2020-10-31T00:51:02Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > That kissy-face thing…creepy, and not what we expect from Her Imperial Whateverness.- This is supposed to be the same woman who slapped DJT’s hand away when he tried to take her hand? Okay. I just watched the kissy video. That is NOT Melania. No. Fucking. Way. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5756 "2020-10-31T00:55:46Z")
To paraphrase a line from Body Heat - That was her. And she is (brain) dead. The kisses were for the camera, must be the latest attempt to win over suburban women ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5757 "2020-10-31T00:58:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Okay. I just watched the kissy video. That is NOT Melania. No. Fucking. Way. Watch out people! THIS is what Covid does to you! ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5758 "2020-10-31T01:04:24Z")
It’s weird to see Botoxia smiling. Maybe that’s the difference. Usually she’s pulling that clenched-teeth, constipation face. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5759 "2020-10-31T01:11:13Z")
The cnn story, though, has two pictures. The woman in sunglasses in front of the mic and farther down a picture of Melanie. Look at the lips. If the woman at the podium really is her, methinks there must have been some collagen injections. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=286) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=288)