# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 293
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5860 "2020-11-04T01:46:46Z")
Prolly 'cause no Russians watch it. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5861 "2020-11-04T04:34:29Z")
No! Don’t YOU start the “prolly”! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5862 "2020-11-04T05:25:31Z")
I know how everyone, including me, wants to shove icepicks in our ears at the sound of his voice. But believe me, it’s worth a few seconds to hear the tone. He sounds drunk and, well, defeated. [[https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1323614623023726595?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1323614623023726595|twgr^share\_3&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Ffox-news-live-trump-interview-biden-obama-rallies-1544375](https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1323614623023726595?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1323614623023726595%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Ffox-news-live-trump-interview-biden-obama-rallies-1544375)] ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5863 "2020-11-04T13:49:26Z")
Deutsch Bank isn’t the only one looking the other way when dirty money swims through their system, but they are among the most reputable - or at least they were. The whole story of DB’s connections to the Kremlin opened my eyes to how easy it is for the wrong people to pose as rich capitalists and bend financial institutions to their will. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5864 "2020-11-04T14:54:40Z")
Welp. Second verse, same as the first? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5865 "2020-11-04T15:01:01Z")
Not yet!! ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5866 "2020-11-04T15:03:36Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Welp. Second verse, same as the first? A whole lot louder and a whole lot worse. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5867 "2020-11-04T15:05:35Z")
It’s not over til the big orange ~~turd~~ toad croaks. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5868 "2020-11-04T15:06:39Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > No _Gentlemen’s C_ for you! It didn’t look right but I was in a hurry. [Apostrophe abuse.](https://mk0proofreadanyxn6ri.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/plural.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5869 "2020-11-04T15:08:08Z")
😘 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5870 "2020-11-04T16:06:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Prolly 'cause no Russians watch it. > [@Locrian](#): > > No! Don’t YOU start the “prolly”! 😀 It’s a perfectly cromulent word. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5871 "2020-11-04T19:14:30Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Deutsch Bank isn’t the only one looking the other way when dirty money swims through their system, but they are among the most reputable - or at least they were. > > The whole story of DB’s connections to the Kremlin opened my eyes to how easy it is for the wrong people to pose as rich capitalists and bend financial institutions to their will. Deutsche Bank is the one that Anthony Kennedy’s son works for, right? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5872 "2020-11-04T19:53:59Z")
Zimbabwe threatens sanctions against the US if the election isn’t free and open. [https://www.pazimbabwe.com/world-news-66406-united-states-risks-sanctions-from-zimbabwe-if-elections-are-not-free-and-fair.html](https://www.pazimbabwe.com/world-news-66406-united-states-risks-sanctions-from-zimbabwe-if-elections-are-not-free-and-fair.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5873 "2020-11-04T19:59:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Zimbabwe threatens sanctions against the US if the election isn’t free and open. I’ll take sentences I never thought I’d read for $1000 please, Alex. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5874 "2020-11-04T23:23:56Z")
> **[A Large Portion of the Electorate Chose the Sociopath](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/large-portion-electorate-chose-sociopath/616994/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%2BTheAtlantic%2B%28The%2BAtlantic%2B-%2BMaster%2BFeed%29)** > > America will have to contend with that fact. This is the truly sickening part. In 2016 DJT was an unknown _as president_. He was going to “drain the swamp,” “run government like a business,” blahblahblah. Unfortunately he ran the government like one of **his** businesses, i.e., into the ground. In 2020 he is no longer an unknown. Yet 60+ million people want four more years of this unrelenting shitstorm. I cannot fathom it. I do not know this country any more. > …But no matter how this election concludes, America is now a different country. Nearly half of the voters have seen Trump in all of his splendor—his infantile tirades, his disastrous and lethal policies, his contempt for democracy in all its forms—and they decided that they wanted more of it. His voters can no longer hide behind excuses about the corruption of Hillary Clinton or their willingness to take a chance on an unproven political novice. They cannot feign ignorance about how Trump would rule. They know, and they have embraced him. > > Sadly, the voters who said in 2016 that they chose Trump because they thought he was “just like them” turned out to be right. Now, by picking him again, those voters are showing that they _are_ just like him: angry, spoiled, racially resentful, aggrieved, and willing to die rather than ever admit that they were wrong. > … ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5875 "2020-11-04T23:38:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > In 2020 he is no longer an unknown. Yet 60+ million people want four more years of this unrelenting shitstorm. I cannot fathom it. I do not know this country any more. Yeah. I think I want a divorce. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5876 "2020-11-04T23:42:30Z")
People seem to like bullies, possibly because we’re monkeys more than we think. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5877 "2020-11-05T01:15:39Z")
Re: Trump as a sociopath. I imagined this exchange today: Me: Trump is a sociopath. Trump supporter: You can’t say that. You’re not a psychologist. Me: I’m not a meteorologist either, but I can tell when it’s raining. Maybe I’ll meme that. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5878 "2020-11-05T01:19:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …But no matter how this election concludes, America is now a different country. Nearly half of the voters have seen Trump in all of his splendor—his infantile tirades, his disastrous and lethal policies, his contempt for democracy in all its forms—and they decided that they wanted more of it. This is what I feared when I posted in the “[Biden Is President, Congress Is Blue. Now What?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-is-president-congress-is-blue-now-what/923188)” thread in Politics and Elections: > [@Biden Is President, Congress Is Blue. Now What?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-is-president-congress-is-blue-now-what/923188/76): > > …it wouldn’t take a very much smarter person than Trump to completely dump the Constitution and turn America into a dictatorship with a “King For Life.” > As long as we have corporations that pander to the fears and hatred of a vast number - millions - of potential voters, then the possibility of dictatorship exists. > **Trump and his intellectually disabled fans have pointed the way.** > > To me, the question is whether America and the American Constitution is to be protected and sustained. If not, then 51% of the electorate can put the worst dictator in history into office. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5879 "2020-11-05T01:26:02Z")
> [@susan](#): > > People seem to like bullies, possibly because we’re monkeys more than we think. That’s undeniably true. There is some large fraction of all humans who are attracted to bullies. The aspect that no one predicted before 2015 was that they could be attracted to a bully who is clearly insecure and cowardly. “Stupid” was okay—born-toadies have toadied for stupid bullies before. But before Trump, no one knew that absurdly incompetent bullies could attract toadies. This fact must be very confusing to prominent Trump-enabling Republicans who cherish their own hopes of reaching the top someday. Do they try to be as childish and petulant and needy as possible? Obviously they have to be good at dog-whistling both white supremacism and male supremacism, but do they also have to climb into the cabs of big trucks and make “zoom zoom” noises? It must be very distressing for them, trying to figure it out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=292) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=294)