# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 295
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5900 "2020-11-05T17:50:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Me: Trump is a sociopath. Trump supporter: You can’t say that. You’re not a psychologist. Me: I’m not a proctologist either, but I know an a-hole when I see one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5901 "2020-11-05T18:30:08Z")
He displays all the classic indicators of a sociopath, with no countervailing signs. He behaves exactly like one, so, while it literally is possible that he is not one, what difference would it make? We can call him the name that fits his behavior because all our expectations have matched the model and none have run counter to it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5902 "2020-11-05T21:27:14Z")
Lil Jared called Rupert Murdoch to get him to overturn Fox’s call of Biden for Arizona. > **[Jared Kushner called Rupert Murdoch in a desperate bid to overturn the...](https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-murdoch-demand-fox-retract-arizona-call-nyt-2020-11)** > > Trump aides were reportedly furious when the usually loyal Fox News network became the first to project that Joe Biden would flip Arizona. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5903 "2020-11-05T21:48:58Z")
CNN reporting that the 300,000 ballots are not lost after all, they were just picked up to be delivered without performing a scan because time was running out to send them. Still surprised the USPS could refuse the court ordered sweep with apparently no consequences. I’m sure I’d be in jail if I did that. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5904 "2020-11-05T21:53:28Z")
Newest conspiracy theory: Some people used Sharpies on their ballots in Arizona, and those should be thrown out because people aren’t allowed to use them. Truth is, people were encouraged to use Sharpies because they don’t smear like ballpoint ink does, and the ballots were specifically designed so that, if you use a Sharpie, and should the ink bleed through to the other side, the ink wouldn’t show up in any of the bubbles on that side. [https://abc13.com/sharpiegate-sharpie-gate-voter-sharpies-trump-votes/7668517/](https://abc13.com/sharpiegate-sharpie-gate-voter-sharpies-trump-votes/7668517/) ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5905 "2020-11-05T22:52:32Z")
Looks like he’s continuing his stomp and scream routine: [Trump prepares to launch a second term early, even without winning - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5906 "2020-11-05T22:56:35Z")
> [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#): > > [Trump prepares to launch a second term early, even without winning - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464) > Trump and his aides have settled on a plan for him to take full advantage of his existing perch at the White House to look as presidential as possible 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5907 "2020-11-05T23:17:03Z")
> [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#): > > Looks like he’s continuing his stomp and scream routine: [https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464) He gets more and more ridiculous as it gets more and more obvious that his only path to 270 is losing forty pounds. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5908 "2020-11-05T23:19:02Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > . . . it gets more and more obvious that his only path to 270 is losing forty pounds. [![](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/rofl.png?v=9) ](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/rofl.png?v=9) ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5909 "2020-11-05T23:25:16Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > He gets more and more ridiculous as it gets more and more obvious that his only path to 270 is losing forty pounds. I just spit diet Dr Pepper all over my laptop and had to clean it. Now I have a squeaky clean laptop - thanks for the laugh! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5910 "2020-11-05T23:31:07Z")
But at least 150,000 ballots were processed late and delivered after Election Day. > **[USPS processed 150,000 ballots after Election Day, jeopardizing thousands of...](https://apple.news/AOmwPzOlgSPqM1UzR9-flqA)** > > The number of mailed ballots not delivered by Nov. 3 is expected to grow as more postal data is released in the coming days. > **[USPS processed 150,000 ballots after Election Day, jeopardizing thousands of...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/11/05/usps-late-ballots-election/)** > > The number of mailed ballots not delivered by Nov. 3 is expected to grow as more postal data is released in the coming days. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5911 "2020-11-05T23:41:05Z")
Bannon is calling for the [beheading](https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-muses-about-beheading-dr-anthony-fauci-and-fbi-director-chris-wray-in-podcast) of Wray and Fauci. Not, like, metaphorically either: _“I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England. I’d put the heads on pikes, right, I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats,” he said. “You either get with the program or you’re gone. Time to stop playing games. Blow it all up, put Ric Grenell today as the interim head of the FBI, that’ll light them up, right?”_ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5912 "2020-11-06T00:49:21Z")
Whiny Baby-Man Whines; Reputable News Networks Cut Away: > **[MSNBC, NPR, Other Networks Cut Away From Trump's Election Press Conference](https://www.newsweek.com/msnbc-npr-other-networks-cut-away-trumps-election-press-conference-1545300)** > > "Here we are again in the unusual position of not only interrupting the President of the United States but correcting the President of the United States..." Brian Williams of MSNBC said. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5913 "2020-11-06T01:54:10Z")
> [@Ziberian](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > That’s undeniably true. There is some large fraction of all humans who are attracted to bullies. > > > > The aspect that no one predicted before 2015 was that they could be attracted to a bully who is clearly insecure and cowardly. “Stupid” was okay—born-toadies have toadied for stupid bullies before. But before Trump, no one knew that **absurdly incompetent** bullies could attract toadies. > > Every bully I’ve ever met is insecure and cowardly – it’s the underlying cause for the bullying, trying to be brave and tough in all the wrong ways. Those attracted to bullies are insecure cowards who just don’t quite have the balls to **be** a bully so they can only satellite around them. It somewhat explains why these folks genuinely believe Trump is a tough guy, because compared to them, he is. Sure, psychologically, many bullies are insecure. But successful bullies are rarely as absurdly incompetent or visibly and obviously “childish, petulant, and needy” (also from my post) as is Trump. Mussolini, in the rear view of history, cuts a ridiculous figure, with his attempt at a performance of “masculinity.” That’s true of Trump, too. But Mussolini didn’t have a reputation as an inveterate whiner and bungler; his reputation was that the ‘made the trains run on time’. Trump is a man-baby. Toadies generally prefer a bully who is better at performing machismo and dominance than Trump is; that was my point. I certainly wasn’t asserting (as your post implies) that bullies are secure or brave people—just that successful bullies are usually better at _impersonating_ security and bravery, than Trump is. ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5914 "2020-11-06T02:21:16Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sure, psychologically, many bullies are insecure. But successful bullies are rarely as absurdly incompetent or visibly and obviously “childish, petulant, and needy” (also from my post) as is Trump. > > Mussolini, in the rear view of history, cuts a ridiculous figure, with his attempt at a performance of “masculinity.” That’s true of Trump, too. But Mussolini didn’t have a reputation as an inveterate whiner and bungler; his reputation was that the ‘made the trains run on time’. > > Trump is a man-baby. Toadies generally prefer a bully who is better at performing machismo and dominance than Trump is; that was my point. I certainly wasn’t asserting (as your post implies) that bullies are secure or brave people—just that successful bullies are usually better at _impersonating_ security and bravery, than Trump is. I wasn’t implying that you thought bullies are brave or secure, just pointing out that Trump’s insecurity/cowardice isn’t at all unusual for bullies, it’s the driving force for their bullying. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5915 "2020-11-06T02:38:49Z")
Trump’s lead in GA is now only 1,902 with around 14,000 left to count. It’s very likely the next update will see Biden going over the top. If Biden wins Georgia then even if Trump wins every other state (which he won’t) he cannot get to 270. But he _can_ tie it at 269 a piece. EDIT: sorry wrong thread, but I’ll keep this here as a lovely gift. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5916 "2020-11-06T04:09:30Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Bannon is calling for the [beheading](https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-muses-about-beheading-dr-anthony-fauci-and-fbi-director-chris-wray-in-podcast) of Wray and Fauci. Not, like, metaphorically either: > > _“I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England. I’d put the heads on pikes, right, I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats,” he said. “You either get with the program or you’re gone. Time to stop playing games. Blow it all up, put Ric Grenell today as the interim head of the FBI, that’ll light them up, right?”_ This is the Ric Grenell who ran away from a reporter this morning in order to avoid answering what evidence he had that the vote counting was corrupt. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5917 "2020-11-06T05:07:04Z")
Both MSNBC and USA Today stopped broadcasting Individual 1’s speech today after he started spouting lies, and USA Today removed it from their website. These are the only two I’ve heard of doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5918 "2020-11-06T12:30:37Z")
A classic reimagined… > ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/5919 "2020-11-06T13:11:50Z")
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