# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 300
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6000 "2020-11-08T01:23:18Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > The celebrations on the street are akin to the scenes you see in a country that has just toppled a dictator. And the sky over them is akin to blue! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6001 "2020-11-08T01:46:31Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > I really want to hear from the people at Four Seasons Total Landscaping who got a call from the Trump team about having a press conference at their store and were just like, “OK”. It occurs to me that the little screwup may be tied to the big screwup. Under normal circumstances, if somebody called the “Four Seasons” about booking space for a meeting and they said, “OK, you can use the parking lot”, even a MAGAtroid would notice that something wasn’t quite right. However, the circumstances are not normal – the minion who made the call probably assumed that the “Four Seasons” had closed its function space because of the pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6002 "2020-11-08T02:09:38Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Under normal circumstances, if somebody called the “Four Seasons” about booking space for a meeting and they said, “OK, you can use the parking lot”, **even a MAGAtroid would notice that something wasn’t quite right**. Assuming facts not in evidence. They really **are** that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6003 "2020-11-08T02:20:40Z")
Are you guys saying that the only reason it was at Four Seasons Landscaping was that someone seriously thought they were booking a Four Seasons hotel? Really??? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6004 "2020-11-08T02:22:40Z")
I am willing to entertain any other reasonable explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6005 "2020-11-08T02:27:41Z")
Dear Lord. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6006 "2020-11-08T02:30:00Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > Are you guys saying that the only reason it was at Four Seasons Landscaping was that someone seriously thought they were booking a Four Seasons hotel? > > Really???- They’re improving. Four years ago, they would have tried to book a room at The Frankie Valli and Four Seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6007 "2020-11-08T03:04:09Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > The celebrations on the street are akin to the scenes you see in a country that has just toppled a dictator. Trending on Facebook > [@](#): > > Live your life in such a way that the whole planet _doesn’t_ dance in the streets when you lose your job. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6008 "2020-11-08T03:36:07Z")
I’m trying to recall in 2016 - were there _any_ public celebrations of Trump’s win? I seem to recall plenty of protests. Are there any protests today of Biden’s? (I freely admit this could be a symptom of confirmation bias, but I don’t give a flying fuck) ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6009 "2020-11-08T05:59:58Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > I am willing to entertain any other reasonable explanation. Well, don’t you think it was actually because Four Seasons Landscaping is between Fantasy Island adult book store and Delaware Valley crematorium? As they say, “Location, location, location.” ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6010 "2020-11-08T06:13:34Z")
Absolutely not. The TA does not simply disappear. As long as that shitstain is alive he and his FORMER administration is still alive, guesting on AON and TrumpTruthMagaNews, it’s always an “administration”. There’s another 4 years on this thread. ---
**Author:** ![moes\_lotion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@moes\_lotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moes_lotion)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6011 "2020-11-08T06:19:16Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > Unfucking the Cluster? Coming late to this idea, but seeing the current administration members running around like the proverbial headless chickens for the next two and a bit months could be referred to as “Flustered Clucks”. And as the air seeps out of the tires and the shine from the eyes, maybe “Luster Flux”? ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6012 "2020-11-08T06:20:22Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Absolutely not. The TA does not simply disappear. As long as that shitstain is alive he and his FORMER administration is still alive, guesting on AON and TrumpTruthMagaNews, it’s always an “administration”. > > There’s another 4 years on this thread. I suspect that this is basically what will happen. Trump will need to license his name to even more bullshit in order to keep himself solvent, and the Trump campaign supporter/donator list is a goldmine of suckers waiting to be separated from their money. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6013 "2020-11-08T06:30:26Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I’m trying to recall in 2016 - were there _any_ public celebrations of Trump’s win? I seem to recall plenty of protests. > > Are there any protests today of Biden’s? > > (I freely admit this could be a symptom of confirmation bias, but I don’t give a flying fuck) I bet that this was the largest celebration of a candidate’s _ **defeat** _ ever. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6014 "2020-11-08T07:11:34Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > > > Close the thread, mods!!! (just kidding 😆) > > Seriously, I’ll advocate for a ceremonial closing of the thread on Jan 20 as Joe takes the oath. We can create a “cleaning up the clusterfuck” thread for all the aftermath. Closing this one would have important symbolic meaning. I suggested this a week or two ago (and IIRC others were hinting at the same). I suggested further that it should be a positive-oriented let’s-get-things-fixed thread in Politics&Elections rather than in the BBQ Pit. I also suggested that @ThelmaLou should be the one to have the honor to start that thread. (Remember that, ThelmaLou?) This thread (including the original one) has had a good long run, but it still has 10-or-so weeks left to go. There’s still a lot of clusterfucking that Trump can do in that time. ETA: Everybody remember what a razzing ThelmaLou got right at the beginning when she first started this thread? Perhaps a new thread title could be “Unfucking the Clusterfuck”. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6015 "2020-11-08T07:16:28Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > I suspect that this is basically what will happen. Trump will need to license his name to even more bullshit in order to keep himself solvent, and the Trump campaign supporter/donator list is a goldmine of suckers waiting to be separated from their money. A coworker of mine suggested he could get a deal with Spotify to do a “Make Podcasting Great Again” show where he invites people on to interview him about how great he is. “It’s going to be the greatest podcast in the history of our country, believe me. Much better than that loser Joe Rogan. He used to be the best, I hear he used to like me very much, but he’s very nasty now. I call him Sleepy Joe. I made that up just now. I’ve never called anyone else that.” ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6016 "2020-11-08T07:35:52Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > I bet that this was the largest celebration of a candidate’s _ **defeat** _ ever. I remember the street party we had in Berkeley the night that Nixon resigned. That was certainly a big street-party night across the nation. Hard to tell which was bigger. I’m going to suspect that today’s (Saturday) celebrations for Biden/Harris were bigger. I wonder if that crowd outside the White House was bigger than Trump’s inauguration crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6017 "2020-11-08T07:48:11Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > I bet that this was the largest celebration of a candidate’s _ **defeat** _ ever. I just read that today there was more champagne bought in DC than in the last to New Years’ combined. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6018 "2020-11-08T08:32:01Z")
I wonder what will happen about California and car emissions? Trump apparently wanted to force the car industry to make gas mileage in new cars worse and take away California’s ability to set its own emissions standards. Not sure what, if anything, happened about that since COVID, the elections, and various other clusterfucks have taken over the headlines since then, too many to count. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6019 "2020-11-08T11:19:07Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > I am willing to entertain any other reasonable explanation. The only alternative explanation I can think of is that Cheapo Cheato decided to go with a downscale venue with kinda sorta the same name. thinking that all the Teeming Millions would notice was “press conference at Four Seasons”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=299) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=301)