# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 303
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6060 "2020-11-08T22:45:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@rboyce](#): > > > > ,tyyrTETE- > > Alcohol? Yes, please. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6061 "2020-11-08T23:13:26Z")
Apparently there is a new COVID strain that spreads more readily and is highly resistant to the existing vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6062 "2020-11-08T23:16:48Z")
> [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#): > > > [@DoctorJ](#): > > > > I really want to hear from the people at Four Seasons Total Landscaping who got a call from the Trump team about having a press conference at their store and were just like, “OK”. > > Oh yes, I’d really like to hear more on this backstory too. I just find it so funny. To be honest, I first heard of the Four Seasons Total Landscaping fuckup on SNL yesterday, and assumed they were exaggerating. It’s just so weird and so incompetent. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6063 "2020-11-08T23:25:51Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Apparently there is a new COVID strain that spreads more readily and is highly resistant to the existing vaccine. Well. I was about to make a cup of tea, but maybe I’ll switch to an adult beverage instead. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6064 "2020-11-08T23:27:12Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#): > > > > > [@DoctorJ](#): > > > > > > I really want to hear from the people at Four Seasons Total Landscaping who got a call from the Trump team about having a press conference at their store and were just like, “OK”. > > > > Oh yes, I’d really like to hear more on this backstory too. I just find it so funny. > > To be honest, I first heard of the Four Seasons Total Landscaping fuckup on SNL yesterday, and assumed they were exaggerating. It’s just so weird and so incompetent. [Vox](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/11/8/21555022/four-seasons-landscaping-trump-giuliani-philadelphia-press-conference) > The internet exploded with mockery and memes at the clarification, assuming there had been some bone-headed mix-up by the Trump campaign. The [New York Times reported](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/07/us/biden-trump?auth=login-email&login=email), however, that the mistake was “not in the booking, but in a garbled game of telephone.” The president was apparently told the conference would be at the business but misunderstood the name of the venue, thinking it would be held at the upscale hotel. > > In many ways, this mix-up is indicative of the Trump presidency and the help he has received from his team of lawyers, led by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who headed the conference. That still doesn’t explain why they chose that place to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6065 "2020-11-08T23:36:27Z")
Here’s the most detailed story so far. > **[No, not that Four Seasons. How Team Trump’s news conference ended up at a...](https://www.inquirer.com/news/four-seasons-landscaping-philly-trump-giuliani-hotel-biden-20201108.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=ios&utm_campaign=app_ios_article_share&utm_content=WXMS654Z7BHRTPFONPTAIUB47M&fbclid=IwAR1iPkx8OyfX5yU2YNK4L5cUXEk5kba4fyWZvrGuITcEjGuVFazJuE4KTHo)** > > The Trump campaign’s hastily called Saturday news conference outside a Holmesburg landscaping firm captured the public’s imagination and offered a fitting end to an at-times slapdash campaign. It sounds like the landscaping company didn’t get it either, but just went with it. Team Trump is still claiming that they totally meant to do that, which is transparently bullshit. They say they wanted to get away from the chaos in Center City, but wouldn’t the perfect place to do that be _inside a hotel conference room_? I think someone on Giuliani’s team just called the wrong Four Seasons, which is easy to do on the fly if they just Googled “Four Seasons”. The real question is why they just ran with it instead of backing up and fixing the mistake; the best explanation there is that Rudy is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6066 "2020-11-09T00:17:50Z")
That didn’t take long. Think it was the strain that went through the Dutch minks? (And damme if that isn’t a good band name.) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6067 "2020-11-09T00:22:56Z")
I can’t find the link, but I think the final answer was that Four Seasons Landscaping was owned by an area Trump supporter and offered through the local campaign headquarters. Not sure if the garble happened between the local office and Guiliani, or Guiliani and Trump. I could see how a business called Four Seasons Landscaping could possibly be nice but they should’ve looked at Google Earth before they said yes. But it was free, and you know these yahoos are spending their own money in their cartoonish quest to overthrow democracy. They’ll never get a dime of it back from Trump or the campaign. They need to save money wherever they can. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6068 "2020-11-09T00:30:41Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I could see how a business called Four Seasons Landscaping could possibly be nice but they should’ve looked at Google Earth before they said yes. The front actually looks rather nice but there’s no place to do a presser except the sidewalk. I’m sure no one would think to check neighboring businesses. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6069 "2020-11-09T00:34:13Z")
Dutch Minx and the Douche Minks. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6070 "2020-11-09T00:40:19Z")
Yeah, the problem seems to be that the held the presser in their scrapyard or something. You have to remember that Rudy Guiliani is, quite literally, insane. Seriously. Right wing media is a drug worse than heroin and he’s the poster child. He was always unpleasant but he wasn’t crazy, he managed to get elected mayor of one of the nations most liberal cities, twice. But my God, this is stunning. Fox News has inflicted more damage than Purdue Pharmaceuticals. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6071 "2020-11-09T00:48:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Melania Trump 'counting minutes until divorce', aides claim](https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/melania-trump-counting-minutes-divorce-election-loss-aides-claim-041846538.html) I wouldn’t bet against the likelihood that the family unit— Melania, her son, and her parents—will be moving back to Slovenia. Melania probably knows that she can’t get any more $$$ out of Donald. So why not seek their fortunes in Eastern Europe? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6072 "2020-11-09T00:57:06Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > It sounds like the landscaping company didn’t get it either, but just went with it. I love this quote from the article: > [@](#): > > But not all in the neighborhood were so amused. The 78-year-old employee manning the counter at the Fantasy Island sex shop, who declined to give his name, said the phone had been ringing off the hook since Saturday with callers asking: “Is Rudy Giuliani there?” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6073 "2020-11-09T01:08:22Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Fox News has inflicted more damage [on Guiliani] than Purdue Pharmaceuticals I’ll say Russian kompromat has. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6074 "2020-11-09T01:46:17Z")
This one made me laugh until I cried. Liberal tears, I guess. > **[Total Landscaping: A Masque](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/four-seasons-total-landscaping-poem/617042/)** > > A poem for Sunday ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6075 "2020-11-09T04:50:46Z")
Total Landscaping is ginning up a merch page to be available tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6076 "2020-11-09T04:52:15Z")
It’s up now… [https://www.fstl1992.com/fstlmerch](https://www.fstl1992.com/fstlmerch) ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6077 "2020-11-09T04:54:46Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > The t-shirts are now available: > [https://shopclass.threadless.com/designs/four-seasons-total-landscaping/mens](https://shopclass.threadless.com/designs/four-seasons-total-landscaping/mens) And for anybody that didn’t realize it, all profits from the sales of these shirts are supposed to be going to the Georgia runoffs. ETA: The ones linked by **Fiendish\_Astronaut** , not the ones linked by **Pork\_Rind**. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6078 "2020-11-09T05:10:51Z")
I bet the outside company they just founded to manufacture and market the shirts sees to it that no profits are ever generated. If Guiliani has the next presser in front of a burning dumpster, they’ll make a T-shirt for that, too. The new Seditionware brand. Seriously, how the fuck can Mike Pence look at the photos of that press conference with his name slapped all over everything and still believe that God loves him for executing his plan? ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6079 "2020-11-09T05:22:45Z")
And just to make sure I made my post clear: The shirts linked by **Fiendish\_Astronaut** are not associated with the Trump campaign, and were designed “in celebration of the absurdity of the end of the Trump campaign.” They are the ones advertised as profits going toward Georgia election efforts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=302) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=304)