# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 306
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6120 "2020-11-09T20:21:48Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > An ass riding a horse! supporting an ass! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6121 "2020-11-09T20:26:19Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > > [@Aspenglow](#): > > > > McConnell is going to have to decide soon which horse he wants to ride > > An ass riding a horse! I hope you like mules, because that’s how you get mules! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6122 "2020-11-09T20:29:05Z")
He also claims to have been a Philadelphia poll watcher, but he lives in New Jersey. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6123 "2020-11-09T20:34:07Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > This is correct. If the nominee is not confirmed, there would be nobody in the office of vice-president. > > This (no vice-president until the next election) has actually happened sixteen times in our history, the last of which was when LBJ assumed office after Kennedy was assassinated. For a period of 1 year and 59 days there was no veep. This led to the passage of the 25th amendment in 1967, which was used to fill the office twice, once in 1973 after Agnew resigned, and again in 1974 when Nixon resigned and Ford became president. The 25th Amendment says if there is no VP, the President nominates a VP, who must be confirmed by both Houses. The first person this was applied to was Nelson Rockefeller, who was Ford’s VP. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6124 "2020-11-09T20:35:53Z")
“Klaus Barbie doll”. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6125 "2020-11-09T20:50:55Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The 25th Amendment says if there is no VP, the President nominates a VP, who must be confirmed by both Houses. The first person this was applied to was Nelson Rockefeller, who was Ford’s VP. I believe it was first applied to Gerald Ford, who was Nixon’s nominee for VP after Spiro Agnew resigned. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6126 "2020-11-09T20:53:24Z")
In _this_ country? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6127 "2020-11-09T20:55:46Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I believe it was first applied to Gerald Ford, who was Nixon’s nominee for VP after Spiro Agnew resigned. Oh, yeah, that’s right. Thanks for the correction. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6128 "2020-11-09T20:57:05Z")
Pfizer announced a successful test on their covid vaccine. Mike Pence tried to claim credit for it as part of the administration’s covid task force Pfizer said the government had nothing to do with it, as they didn’t take any government money. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6129 "2020-11-09T20:59:01Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > . Mike Pence tried to claim credit for it as part of the administration’s covid task force Pfizer said the government had nothing to do with it, as they didn’t take any government money. Trump must be fuming that this announcement wasn’t a week sooner. Probably thinks they delayed on purpose until Biden was declared the winner. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6130 "2020-11-09T21:00:41Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Isn’t he the one that Trump pushed out of the way at some summit? If so, yes, I’d love to hear his reaction. The very same. However, as with many things, it appears Montenegro’s politics are more complicated than we first understood. [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-montenegro-election/montenegro-president-accepts-his-party-lost-election-idUSKBN25U1QA](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-montenegro-election/montenegro-president-accepts-his-party-lost-election-idUSKBN25U1QA) Based on reading this, Djukanovic doesn’t sound much better than Trump. I’m not a close watcher of Montenegro’s internal politics, so this is the first I learned of Djukanovic’s long-term ties to corruption. Still, manners is manners. Shoving world leaders out of the way to make sure you’re in front of a camera is boorish behavior no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6131 "2020-11-09T21:02:04Z")
Trump: “…and so I am urging; people come up to me and they say 'sir, are you urging us to do this? An I am, right? I am. Take this fight right to them and show them who’s in charge! So I am urging each and every one of you to stand up to Big Pharma! Show them they don’t control you, and refuse this so-called ‘vaccine’! Don’t be controlled by Big Pharma; they love socialism!” 51% of US: [golf clap] Go for it! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6132 "2020-11-09T21:02:21Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Trump must be fuming that this announcement wasn’t a week sooner. Probably thinks they delayed on purpose until Biden was declared the winner. Donnie Junior (or was it Eric, as if they aren’t the same person) said it was done intentionally. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6133 "2020-11-09T21:33:09Z")
It actually wouldn’t surprise me if they did do it on purpose. Not specifically because they wanted Trump to lose, but because Trump had been pushing so hard to get it done before the election that if they released it earlier it might give the public the impression that they caved to pressure and were releasing it before it was fully tested. Ironically it may have been Trumps efforts to engineer a last minute policy victory that caused him to lose it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6134 "2020-11-09T22:01:57Z")
Trump is starting to divest of his assets. I think the vig is coming due: > **[President Trump’s Helicopter Is For Sale; Make An Offer](https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/11/08/president-trumps-helicopter-is-for-sale-make-an-offer/?sh=288428334468)** > > For Sale. A helicopter owned by the current President of major Western democracy. Here's what you'll get and how much you will likely have to pay. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6135 "2020-11-09T22:16:19Z")
Moscow Mitch finally made his play for GA. Needs to publicly back Trump until the runoffs are done. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6136 "2020-11-09T22:20:39Z")
I’m stealing this. How can I credit you? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6137 "2020-11-09T23:08:21Z")
The presser at Four Seasons Landscaping was Ghoulani’s effort at a “grassroots campaign.” ---
**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6138 "2020-11-09T23:24:03Z")
Booooo! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6139 "2020-11-09T23:25:07Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > The presser at Four Seasons Landscaping was Ghoulani’s effort at a “grassroots campaign.” - Did you hear that through the grapevine? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=305) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=307)