# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 309
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6180 "2020-11-10T14:56:47Z")
I woulda thought that Ghuliani just ate them. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6181 "2020-11-10T15:00:22Z")
Remember when Gore/Lieberman became Sore/ Loserman? I wish Trump/Pence lent itself to easy mockery. Trump/Uppance? Meh. These people are pathetic. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6182 "2020-11-10T15:35:09Z")
I’ve been interested in groups like this for a long time. It’s amazing how mainstreamed a cult can become if the men wear expensive suits, have law degrees and don’t practice polygamy. Some of the Fundamentalist Baptist churches are way worse than the Fundamentalist Mormon polygamy cults in terms or abuse and control, but without the salaciousness of polygamy, they fly under the radar. The line between church and cult isn’t bright, and I’ve described lots of these “churches” as cults-in-waiting. These are groups of believers that have become increasingly co-dependent and insulated from the outside world. All they are missing is the abusive leadership, and that frequently appears or evolves. Anyway, I think the first key to understanding these groups is comprehending that for the most part _they really believe the stuff they spout_, no matter how absurd it seems to us. There’s room for debating whether the leaders at the very top of the power structure really believe, some of them are straight up cons but others have fully internalized their place at the top of the power structure. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6183 "2020-11-10T15:39:31Z")
So what if this GSA putzface tries to claim that the decisions from all the GOP lawsuits have to be established, first, before she’ll grant a transition for Biden? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6184 "2020-11-10T15:43:34Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > So what if this GSA putzface tries to claim that the decisions from all the GOP lawsuits have to be established, first, before she’ll grant a transition for Biden?- Who is her immediate supervisor? She doesn’t report directly to DJT. Find me a GSA organizational chart. [https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/gsa-organization](https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/gsa-organization) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6185 "2020-11-10T15:46:26Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Who is her immediate supervisor? **She doesn’t report directly to DJT.** Find me a GSA organizational chart. - Where have you been the last four years? _Everyone_ reports to DJT. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6186 "2020-11-10T15:51:18Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > > > My first thought is Trumps propensity to break any toy he’s not allowed to play with. I imagine the White House will be wreaked by the time the Bidens move in.- > > I can see that. > > But how about this: he’s planning on putting in as big a stadium as will fit there, so he can go on having rallies every day from now on without worrying about another Four Seasons fiasco. Also won’t have to pay other venues-- this is all taxpayer-funded. I bet you he’s just going to put up a statue of himself. They’ll put a plaque on it saying that he was declared the greatest president in the history of the universe. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6187 "2020-11-10T15:53:53Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > I bet you he’s just going to put up a statue of himself. They’ll put a plaque on it saying that he was declared the greatest president in the history of the universe.- They seem to be tearing up a bigger patch of lawn than would be needed for one statue. Maybe he’s terminally ill, and he’s building a mausoleum to house his soon-to-be-shuffled-off mortal coil? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6188 "2020-11-10T15:54:53Z")
Has anyone seen him since Friday? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6189 "2020-11-10T15:59:07Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I think he needs space to bury all the bodies of people he intends to knife in the back over the next two months. > **[‘You Have Disappointed Me,’ Trump Tells Room Full Of Supporters While...](https://www.theonion.com/you-have-disappointed-me-trump-tells-room-full-of-su-1845533067)** > > WASHINGTON—Pacing slowly back and forth as he delivered his words, President Donald Trump reportedly told a room full of his supporters, “You have disappointed me” Wednesday while strapping on a gas mask. “The only thing I ever asked of you was your... ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6190 "2020-11-10T15:59:49Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > They tore up the White House lawn. Are they planning on putting in a luxury bunker? Stealing the sod to replant wherever Trump ends up so he can look out on it and pretend he’s still in charge. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6191 "2020-11-10T16:10:46Z")
You’re saying that Trump is _literally_ sodding off. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6192 "2020-11-10T16:18:30Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > So what if this GSA putzface tries to claim that the decisions from all the GOP lawsuits have to be established, first, before she’ll grant a transition for Biden? There probably isn’t much that can be done. I can’t imagine the laws that require the document she needs to sign would tie the signing of that document to media calls, projected outcomes, or anything that vague. The actual language states that it’s based on GSA “ascertaining” that there is an "apparent successful candidate”. There is no language anywhere that says what that means. The last delay in ascertainment was in 2000 pending the lawsuit in Florida. It was finally provided on Dec 13. Perhaps of note, the 9/11 report stated that the delay in the transition was a contributor to unpreparedness in the lead-up to the attack. There was a story that the Biden team was considering litigation to force ascertainment, but that seems rather unlikely to be successful at least until results in various states are certified. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6193 "2020-11-10T17:06:57Z")
Perhaps it is a search for more grass roots? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6194 "2020-11-10T18:11:49Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > (Back in the ‘70s Barr’s father was my grade-school principal…but I had no idea he, the son, was part of this particular cult.) Was Jeffrey Epstein one of your teachers? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6195 "2020-11-10T18:16:17Z")
Just a reminder: this is not over yet. > **[‘Devastating’: Top Pentagon leadership gutted as fears rise over national...](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/10/pentagon-top-policy-official-resigns-435693)** > > Trio of resignations follow defense secretary's firing. Trump is still in power, and intends to remain so. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6196 "2020-11-10T18:21:40Z")
Today is November 10th. One week after the election. Just today, Lil Eric tweeted, “Minnesota get out and vote!!!” > **[Eric Trump Becomes Twitter Laughingstock After Urging People To Vote... 1...](https://news.yahoo.com/eric-trump-vote-tweet-one-week-after-election-152415379.html)** > > Donald Trump's son tweeted for people in Minnesota to "get out and vote" one week after the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6197 "2020-11-10T18:25:38Z")
Man, if that had been on time, they might not have been 250k or so short. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6198 "2020-11-10T18:29:17Z")
Trump Supporters, don’t listen to the Fake News! Trump will win! We’re going to take this all the way to the Supreme Courtyard by Marriott! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6199 "2020-11-10T18:32:32Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > They tore up the White House lawn. Are they planning on putting in a luxury bunker? > [https://twitter.com/betsy\_klein/status/1325845891811569668/photo/2](https://twitter.com/betsy_klein/status/1325845891811569668/photo/2) Apparently, they’re carrying out repairs necessitated by damage caused by [campaign-related events, some of required heavy machinery to set up.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-campaign-paying-repair-damage-white-house-grounds-rnc-events-n1239592) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=308) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=310)