# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 320
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6400 "2020-11-13T20:22:01Z")
Kimberly’s no prize, either. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6401 "2020-11-13T20:24:05Z")
A witness testifying in favor of Individual 1’s fraud claims in Arizona admits that he is a business partner of the Individual 1 attorney in the case > **[Arizona Election Witness Admits to Being Trump Campaign Lawyer's Associate](https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-election-witness-confesses-being-trump-campaign-lawyers-business-partner-court-1547233)** > > Zack Alcyone admitted to being the associate of the Trump campaign's legal representative, Kory Langhofer, during a hearing in Maricopa County on Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6402 "2020-11-13T20:29:55Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Someone on MSNBC said on Wednesday we had gone five full days and nights without having to hear a single word from Trump. Can today make it seven days without seeing his stupid face or hearing his stupid shit from his stupid lying mouth? He’s supposed to give a press conference at 4pm Eastern today (supposedly, to talk about the vaccine). So, assuming this actually occurs, we won’t have quite made it. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6403 "2020-11-13T20:29:58Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Someone on MSNBC said on Wednesday we had gone five full days and nights without having to hear a single word from Trump. Can today make it seven days without seeing his stupid face or hearing his stupid shit from his stupid lying mouth? I thought I read that he was actually going to speak today about Operation Warp Speed. Not sure if it will actually happen or maybe has already happened by now. Unless he has actual progress to report, it will probably be a bitching session about Pfizer. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6404 "2020-11-13T20:33:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A witness testifying in favor of Individual 1’s fraud claims in Arizona admits that he is a business partner of the Individual 1 attorney in the case > [Arizona Election Witness Confesses to Being Trump Campaign Lawyer's Business Partner in Court](https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-election-witness-confesses-being-trump-campaign-lawyers-business-partner-court-1547233) How is it that the people we fear are on the verge of destroying our democracy are So. Fucking. Stupid? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6405 "2020-11-13T20:40:12Z")
If they were smart, they wouldn’t be subservient to a 74-year-old schoolyard bully. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6406 "2020-11-13T20:40:53Z")
Thank the Lloyds they are though. I’d say something about those who favor democracy being intellectually superior to those who favor autocracy, but I can’t think of anything pithy, and I don’t know if it is actually true. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6407 "2020-11-13T20:42:35Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Let him start a TV network I think the “prison TV” fad has faded. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6408 "2020-11-13T20:56:24Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > He’s supposed to give a press conference at 4pm Eastern today (supposedly, to talk about the vaccine). So, assuming this actually occurs, we won’t have quite made it. I wonder how many people will attend? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6409 "2020-11-13T20:57:52Z")
The most jaw-dropping cant-picture-it factoid of our current political world: Kimberly Guilfoyle used to be married to CA governor Gavin Newsom. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6410 "2020-11-13T21:02:41Z")
And all with no masks? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6411 "2020-11-13T21:04:26Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Kimberly’s no prize, either. Speaking of Ms. Guilfoyle: she allegedly offered a lap dance to whoever gave the biggest donation at a Trump campaign fundraiser. > **[Trump advisor Kimberly Guilfoyle reportedly offered to give a lap dance to...](https://www.businessinsider.com/kimberly-guilfoyle-reportedly-offered-lap-dance-trump-campaign-fundraiser-2020-11)** > > Guilfoyle, who is Donald Trump Jr.'s girlfriend, also offered a hot-tub party to whomever raised the most money at a Wyoming event, Politico reported. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6412 "2020-11-13T21:06:23Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Speaking of Ms. Guilfoyle: she allegedly offered a lap dance to whoever gave the biggest donation at a Trump campaign fundraiser. I wonder if the Kochs took her up on the offer, ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6413 "2020-11-13T21:10:41Z")
One of them’s been dead for over a year. So, probably. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6414 "2020-11-13T21:11:28Z")
Speaking of the Kochs, Charles says it was a mistake to be so partisan. Yeah, a naughty little oopsie. > **[Charles Koch Says His Partisanship Was a Mistake](https://www.wsj.com/articles/charles-koch-says-his-partisanship-was-a-mistake-11605286893)** > > At 85, the libertarian tycoon who spent decades funding conservative causes says he wants a final act building bridges across political divides. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6415 "2020-11-13T21:22:19Z")
So the Individual 1 campaign set up a website for people to show them proof of election fraud. The site immediately got swamped by trolls. But the campaign weeded out the submissions they didn’t like, and then tried to present them as evidence in court that they showed misfeasance. They never even tried to vet that any of the submissions were true. The judge laughed them out of court. > **[Trump Campaign Gets Laughed Out Of Court For Claiming A Bunch Of Unvetted...](https://www.techdirt.com/2020/11/13/trump-campaign-gets-laughed-out-court-claiming-bunch-unvetted-webform-submissions-is-evidence-voter-fraud/)** > > The Trump Campaign is back in court, hoping to reclaim a presidency Donald Trump has lost. It spent plenty of time in court prior to the election, hoping to prevent as many people as possible from … ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6416 "2020-11-13T21:31:43Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Speaking of the Kochs, Charles says it was a mistake to be so partisan. > Yeah, a naughty little oopsie. Can’t wait until he decides that climate change is real. “Whoopsidoodle! Guess I helped make the world burn. Boy is their egg on my face. Well, I’ll be dead soon…” ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6417 "2020-11-13T21:37:52Z")
Orangehole on Covid-19 briefing just said they won’t send any vaccines to New York state unless Cuomo asks for them. Which means he’ll (Cuomo) will have to beg Trump. All the lies he is spewing right now makes me want to puke. Appears only to be on [NewsNOW Stream Part 3 - 11/13/20 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlXP3SjZbU&ab_channel=NewsNOWfromFOX) ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6418 "2020-11-13T21:50:20Z")
Well there aren’t any ready yet are there? None that have even been given the okay for pre FDA approval use? I suppose he’s planning to hold vaccines back from his enemies during his “second term,” too. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6419 "2020-11-13T22:02:02Z")
Yeah, that’s an interesting “threat”. Grovel or I won’t give you any of the money I win in the lottery next month. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=319) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=321)