# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 321
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6420 "2020-11-13T22:20:03Z")
I’m surprised he showed his face. He should be embarrassed. Not really sure what his motivation for this is unless he’s hoping to use OWS as a selling point for 2024. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6421 "2020-11-13T22:30:24Z")
I suspect he did this because Ivanka convinced him. “Gotta be Presidential, Dad. Don’t worry, you can be like Nixon and historians will see all the great things you did.” Of course Nixon actually did accomplish some things, and later gave advice to Clinton. Can you imagine a President in 10 years wanting to confer with Trump? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6422 "2020-11-13T22:35:05Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Well there aren’t any ready yet are there? None that have even been given the okay for pre FDA approval use? I suppose he’s planning to hold vaccines back from his enemies during his “second term,” too. Yeah, because the vaccines are his to give. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6423 "2020-11-13T22:37:04Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Not really sure what his motivation for this is unless he’s hoping to use OWS as a selling point for 2024. He already tried … oh, you don’t mean “Occupy Wall Street.” This is shaping up to be just as genuinely confusing as “BLM” was when talking about the Malheur occupation. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6424 "2020-11-13T22:45:08Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Yeah, because the vaccines are his to give. 🙄 I’m sure he would think of them as his own, and so would Kushner. If they were bought with federal funds, no one would stop him from giving them to whoever he wanted. And if a state managed to acquire some, he’d send goons to confiscate it. Wasn’t it Kushner who referred to medical supplies as “ours”? And by “ours” he meant “Trump’s.” ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6425 "2020-11-13T23:57:48Z")
Seriously? I hadn’t heard that. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6426 "2020-11-14T00:23:56Z")
Team Orange gives up on the “voter fraud hotline”: > **[Trump Campaign Discontinuing Voter Fraud Hotline After Flood of Prank Calls](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-discontinuing-voter-fraud-hotline-following-flood-prank-calls-1547313)** > > People are now being directed to fill out an online form instead, which has already been widely spammed. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6427 "2020-11-14T00:26:22Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Team Orange gives up on the “voter fraud hotline”: > > [Trump Campaign Discontinuing 'Voter Fraud' Hotline Following a Flood of Prank Calls](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-discontinuing-voter-fraud-hotline-following-flood-prank-calls-1547313) - The old “doing the same thing expecting a different outcome” insanity. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6428 "2020-11-14T00:31:00Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Can you imagine a President in 10 years wanting to confer with Trump? Only for doing the opposite of whatever Trump says. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6429 "2020-11-14T00:38:35Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Can you imagine a President in 10 years wanting to confer with Trump? Only if Kato Kaelin somehow becomes president. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6430 "2020-11-14T00:39:33Z")
Listening to Kayleigh (sp?) ignore so many obvious truths, I’ve decided to call her _ **Baghdad Barbie.** _ [Bob](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf)’s spiritual descendant… ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6431 "2020-11-14T00:49:17Z")
I laughed that she’s trying so hard to pretend not to violate the Hatch Act, so much that when a Fox reporter asked her a question, she said they would have to ask the White House. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6432 "2020-11-14T00:49:52Z")
Trump announced today that he expects to see the election results turn around his way in two to three weeks > [@](#): > > Donald Trump hasn’t spoken much to the media this week, but he [apparently called](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-newsletter-exclusive-trump-talks-post-election-fight) the _Washington Examiner_ yesterday to make a series of exceedingly odd claims – and to tout one amazing time frame. > > Much of the outgoing president’s rhetoric was predictably pitiful, including his insistence that he’s “going to win” states like Wisconsin and Georgia – states he’s lost – and his ridiculously untrue claim that Republican poll-watchers and observers were blocked in key locations. > > But [this](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-newsletter-exclusive-trump-talks-post-election-fight) was the line that stood out for me: > > > Whatever the case, Trump is forging ahead. When I asked him how quickly he might turn things around, he said, “I don’t know. It’s probably two weeks, three weeks.” > > Oh, c’mon. “Two weeks”? _Again_ ? > **[Trump sees electoral turnaround in 'probably two weeks'](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-sees-electoral-turnaround-probably-two-weeks-n1247770)** > > Donald Trump expects to see his electoral fortunes turn around in "probably two weeks." It's a parody-defying coda to his presidency. When Trump has to come up with a time frame for just about anything, he seems that his g-to span is two weeks. Someone even compiled a video of times he’s done this. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/bnfRhkLmaqI/maxresdefault.jpg "Donald Trump's Two Week Notice") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnfRhkLmaqI) It reminds of what some comedian (Dave Barry") said about what he used to tell his kids when they asked when they were going to do something – go to the zoo, go on vacation, whatever. He told them they’d do it “Thursday”, and that quieted them down. By the time Thursday rolled around, they’d forgotten about it. I think Trump is hoping we – or at least his base – has similar short-term memory. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6433 "2020-11-14T00:52:36Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Listening to Kayleigh (sp?) ignore so many obvious truths, I’ve decided to call her _ **Baghdad Barbie.** _ > > [Bob](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf)’s spiritual descendant… This is perfect. I was thinking along the same lines as you earlier this afternoon, but my hat is off to you for putting it all together. > [@Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/5910): > > I’ve called her the “Mouth of Trump” before, but she’s really more like [Baghdad Bob](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf). Just like Baghdad Bob denied in front of TV news cameras that there were any American tanks in Baghdad as they rolled right by him in 2003, Kayleigh will be insisting that Trump has won the election as Biden is taking the oath of office. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6434 "2020-11-14T00:57:44Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0uYB2y3zP-s/maxresdefault.jpg "Total Recall's Two Weeks - Flickfeast's Scene Stealers") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYB2y3zP-s) 2 weeks. This scene applies today more than it should. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6435 "2020-11-14T01:00:13Z")
> [@robby](#): > > This is perfect. I was thinking along the same lines as you earlier this afternoon… When I’m invited to the White House (the BIDEN White House…) to accept the thanks of an exhausted but grateful nation, you’ll be my Plus One. We’ll share the donations, the residuals from Banksy and Shepherd Fairey, and the film rights. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6436 "2020-11-14T01:05:45Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Trump announced today that he expects to see the election results turn around his way in two to three weeks He’s gonna have a beautiful plan to win the election _and_ give everybody health care! ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6437 "2020-11-14T01:06:16Z")
P.S. It’s rather amazing thinking about the progression of Trump press secretaries over the course of the last four years. Sean Spicer lied because he was told to, but he always left himself a bit of an “out,” and at least gave the appearance of being uncomfortable with lying. Sarah Huckabee Sanders of the perpetual scowl was worse. Stephanie Grisham simply refused to hold press conferences. Kayleigh McEnany (aka Baghdad Barbie) seems to relish the lies. They roll off her tongue in an unending putrid stream. I’m not sure how much lower they could go, and I certainly don’t want to find out. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6438 "2020-11-14T01:07:32Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k9M5t_7utSs/hqdefault.jpg "WWE Raw Vince McMahon says Youre Fired to Donald Trump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9M5t_7utSs) ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6439 "2020-11-14T01:14:19Z")
I can’t tell the difference between her and Tomi Lahren. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=320) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=322)