# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 327
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6540 "2020-11-17T01:20:08Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > My bolding. I heard a story on this recently but can’t find it online; the gist is that Trump will continue to “earn” hundreds of thousands by moving from one of his properties to another, charging the Secret Service through the nose for their rooms, use of golf carts when they follow him around on the course, etc.—as he’s been doing all throughout his presidency. The thing is, there’s nothing to stop him from running the exact same con post-Presidency, given that he’s guaranteed Secret Service protection by law. Ok. I’ve be wondering about this. Almost started a thread. Would the idiot have access to another ‘Beast’ limo? Or would he have to build his own? Will he have to take a regular limo everywhere? That stupid shit is going to need an army of SS agents to protect him. Does Mar-a-Lago get 100 SS agents? I hope no ill will, and that he quickly fades into obscurity. But more than half of the country absolutely despises him. And when they drag him out of the Oval Office, then what? He get’s one flight on AF1 to anywhere in the USA? Will they have to have a beast limo waiting for him when he gets there? I suspect there are a few of those armored limos stationed near Mar-a-Lago. Can the SS call for a beast limo or three to protect the ex-president? Can they demand no one on or near a golf course? How do you protect someone that is the most hated man in America? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6541 "2020-11-17T01:24:13Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > [Wisconsin recount would cost Trump campaign $7.9 million](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/politics/wisconsin-recount-estimated-cost/index.html) > Donny Fail-Fail needs to fund this… We’ll know soon enough. Local news in Wisconsin tonight had a story about three citizens withdrawing their voting fraud suit “with no explanation”. Then up came a big graphic alerting us all that Trump only has “until Wednesday 5 pm to request a recount, and pay up front for it!” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6542 "2020-11-17T01:29:39Z")
Well, we’ve all kept saying we were relieved that at least he didn’t start a war. > **[Trump asked for options for attacking Iran last week, but held off - source](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-trump/trump-asked-for-options-for-attacking-iran-last-week-but-held-off-source-idUSKBN27X02C?il=0)** > > President Donald Trump, with two months left in office, last week asked for options on attacking Iran's main nuclear site, but ultimately decided against taking the dramatic step, a U.S. official said on Monday. Still got more than 60 days to go, so there’s still time. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6543 "2020-11-17T01:29:48Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Donny Fail-Fail needs to fund this. Dig deep, MAGAlosers. Give him ALL of your money. Refinance your house. Sell your children. > Dig deep. I believe you mean each voter should cough up a dime maybe the rich ones have to cough up a quarter. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6544 "2020-11-17T01:34:18Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > True, but if he retains even one, that would let him continue grifting via charging US taxpayers for his Secret Service detail’s ‘expenses.’ I think Trump gets away with a lot of this shit because he’s currently in charge. If someone else is President it seems like it would be a simple matter to quash his more obvious grifting maneuvers. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6545 "2020-11-17T02:25:09Z")
So this happened yesterday. > **[U.S. being left behind after Asia forms world's biggest trade bloc: U.S. Chamber](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asean-summit-rcep-usa/u-s-being-left-behind-after-asia-forms-worlds-biggest-trade-bloc-u-s-chamber-idUSKBN27X03Q?il=0)** > > The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said on Monday it was concerned the United States was being left behind after 15 Asia-Pacific economies on Sunday formed the world's largest free-trade bloc, cementing China's dominant role in regional trade. I didn’t post the news because I was working on a project and lots of other stuff seemed to be flying around here. But this outcome is exactly what President Obama was trying to prevent with TPP. So many didn’t seem to get that. Guess we lost this one. Do we think it’s going to leave a mark? (I do.) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6546 "2020-11-17T02:37:25Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Guess we lost this one. Do we think it’s going to leave a mark? (I do.) I think the last 4 years of Trump effectively signed the death warrant for the US experiment. Your time is done. Enjoy the decline. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6547 "2020-11-17T03:31:48Z")
Let’s not write the US off altogether just yet, but I am having a hard time finding reasons to be optimistic. While China and other countries are investing in energy technology of the future, we can’t even pass an infrastuture bill to fix our old technologies. Half the fucking population thinks we’ll be OK if we just bring back coal, but this time it will be clean coal. But this is really for another thread, maybe there is one already ---
**Author:** ![rboyce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rboyce/32/4066_2.png) [@rboyce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rboyce)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6548 "2020-11-17T03:40:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think the last 4 years of Trump effectively signed the death warrant for the US experiment. Your time is done. Enjoy the decline. No I think it is/will always be unified governance ---
**Author:** ![rboyce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rboyce/32/4066_2.png) [@rboyce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rboyce)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6549 "2020-11-17T03:51:55Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > But he promises he didn’t mean it in a violent way. Are you calling that person a liar-? just asking (:- ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6550 "2020-11-17T04:24:20Z")
Jesus, get this guy away from the red button. > **[Trump Sought Options for Attacking Iran to Stop Its Growing Nuclear Program...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/us/politics/trump-iran-nuclear.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage&fbclid=IwAR3RaWG8d8IavnKOl2VePU_0TbY93kwueQNYh_ioTHmtmfU7A2YsE1jNFTI)** > > The president was dissuaded from moving ahead with a strike by advisers who warned that it could escalate into a broader conflict in his last weeks in office. > President Trump asked senior advisers in an Oval Office meeting on Thursday whether he had options to take action against Iran’s main nuclear site in the coming weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6551 "2020-11-17T04:26:54Z")
My post #6531. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6552 "2020-11-17T04:29:24Z")
Shit, my bad. Totally missed it. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6553 "2020-11-17T04:31:05Z")
No worries. I’ve done it, too. Easy to miss them, but sometimes it feels like folks hardly read what’s already been posted and maybe we should all slow down a bit. 🙂 And I absolutely do include myself in that! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6554 "2020-11-17T04:32:26Z")
God damn. It is too bad that the international community couldn’t come together and reach some sort of deal with Iran where they would stop their nuclear program… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6555 "2020-11-17T04:33:59Z")
If only that had been possible! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6556 "2020-11-17T04:34:26Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Easy to miss them, but sometimes it feels like folks hardly read what’s already been posted and maybe we should all slow down a bit. The rye and the vape might have had something to do with it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6557 "2020-11-17T04:34:49Z")
LOL, mebbe. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6558 "2020-11-17T06:20:11Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > My post #6531. Huh??? As I respond to this post, I’m using #6526. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6559 "2020-11-17T06:21:54Z")
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