# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/647 "2020-07-07T18:11:31Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Not a Trump clusterfuck, but Trump-adjacent: Brazil’s president Jair Bolsonaro just tested positive for COVID-19. He’s been an even bigger asshole about the pandemic than his buddy Trump. That’s too bad but let’s focus on the important issue; are the statues okay? ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/648 "2020-07-07T18:18:38Z")
Well, if the story about him cheating to get into U Pennsylvania is true, one could reasonably anticipate that the latter would strip him of his fraudulently obtained degree. To me, this makes the book and the information it contains important. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/649 "2020-07-07T18:39:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I still feel we’re approaching the point where Trump’s followers will stop listening to him tell them to blame the government and for them to start seeing him as the government. Not yet, though. I’ve seen a Trump ad that talks about cleaning up Washington and uses “bull in a china shop” as a positive thing. _Somebody’s_ making the calculation that the DC patient is still breathing. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/650 "2020-07-07T18:46:48Z")
Death by a thousand cuts isn’t going to work on this giant orange slug. The average Trump consumer never went to college and will almost certainly think that this is just another way that their cult leader is owning the ivory tower libs and dismantling their corrupt institutions. Hell, of all the things Trump has ever done, cheating in school doesn’t even rate in the top 100. Other presidents would be pilloried and run out of town for less, whereas this grimy little maggot has already thought of something outrageous to say and do that will inevitably distract everybody. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/651 "2020-07-07T18:47:59Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > It’s at about 56-41 now, which is -15. Another recent poll I saw this morning had it as 57-38. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/652 "2020-07-07T18:49:45Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Not a Trump clusterfuck, but Trump-adjacent: Brazil’s president Jair Bolsonaro just tested positive for COVID-19. He’s been an even bigger asshole about the pandemic than his buddy Trump. > > Karma’s a bitch. Maybe he neglected to genuflect in the general direction of the statue? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/653 "2020-07-07T18:54:45Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Well, if the story about him cheating to get into U Pennsylvania is true, one could reasonably anticipate that the latter would strip him of his fraudulently obtained degree. Awesome! Now he’ll _never_ be able to get a job! Really, even if there were ironclad evidence, signed and notarized by the person who took the SAT for him, what difference do you think it would make? Anyone who’s still with him now has made very clear that they literally don’t give a flying fuck what he does, and anyone who’s already against him will just add this little piece of shit to the massive dungheap that is the life story of Donald J. Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/654 "2020-07-07T19:06:01Z")
I’m okay with the humiliation and stripping of status taking some time. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/655 "2020-07-07T19:36:32Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Well, if the story about him cheating to get into U Pennsylvania is true, one could reasonably anticipate that the latter would strip him of his fraudulently obtained degree. He didn’t initially go to Penn; he started out at Fordham in '64, then transferred to the Wharton business school at Penn in '66 or thereabouts. Regardless, he (or his proxy) would have been taking the SAT in '63 or '64, and I suspect that, short of that proxy coming out of the woodwork all this time later, and saying, “Yes, I took that SAT for him, and I will swear to such under oath” there’s unlikely to be any evidence beyond hearsay. (And, given that that was 56 or 57 years ago, there’s a pretty good chance that said proxy is now deceased.) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/656 "2020-07-07T20:13:35Z")
Individual 1 has officially withdrawn the US from the World Health Organization. > **[Trump administration sends letter withdrawing U.S. from World Health...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trump-united-states-withdrawal-world-health-organization-coronavirus/2020/07/07/ae0a25e4-b550-11ea-9a1d-d3db1cbe07ce_story.html)** > > The withdrawal is effective July 6, 2021. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/657 "2020-07-07T20:19:05Z")
I will fix this for you: Individual 1 has officially withdrawn the US from the World ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/658 "2020-07-07T20:19:42Z")
A letter of formal withdrawal from NATO is being drafter as we speak. I kid. Or do I?.. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/659 "2020-07-07T20:23:21Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > …whereas this grimy little maggot has already thought of something outrageous to say and do that will inevitably distract everybody. > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > Individual 1 has officially withdrawn the US from the World Health Organization. Like I was saying… New Breaking Outrage; Read all about it! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/660 "2020-07-07T20:27:06Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 has officially withdrawn the US from the World Health Organization. He has no doubt determined that public health concerns will not be a major issue in the upcoming election. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/661 "2020-07-07T20:43:31Z")
Trump thinking about banning TicTok–not at all revenge for Tulsa. > **[The United States is 'looking at' banning TikTok and other Chinese social...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/07/tech/us-tiktok-ban/index.html)** > > The United States is "looking at" banning Chinese social media apps, including TikTok, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/662 "2020-07-07T20:51:54Z")
The US military has already banned Tik Tok from the private phones of service members, because Tik Tok is a Chinese company and are obligated to report to the Chinese government personal information about their users, including their locations. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/663 "2020-07-07T20:54:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The US military has already banned Tik Tok from the private phones of service members, because Tik Tok is a Chinese company and are obligated to report to the Chinese government personal information about their users, including their locations Do you have a link that shows that it is banned from “private” phones and not just government phones? Also, how does the US government “ban” an app? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/664 "2020-07-07T21:02:16Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Do you have a link that shows that it is banned from “private” phones and not just government phones? > > Also, how does the US government “ban” an app? OK, looks like it was only banned on military devices. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/665 "2020-07-07T22:10:23Z")
When the White House denounces anything this strongly, you know there has to be truth to it. > **[Kellyanne Conway Loses It Over Mary Trump Book on Fox News](https://www.thedailybeast.com/kellyanne-conway-loses-it-over-mary-trump-book-on-fox-news)** > > “I believe family matters should be family matters,” the White House counselor said, seeming to threaten members of the media “who think people’s families are their business.”  ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/666 "2020-07-07T22:46:28Z")
It’s personal for KC given her husband’s very public opposition to Trump and more recently her daughter’s negative comments about Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=34)