# The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083 "2020-06-22T03:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 333
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6660 "2020-11-18T21:54:33Z")
Individual 1 claims victory in Nevada because one county commissioner vote in Clark County is rerunning because the difference in votes was 10, and there were enough errors that the margin of error is greater than 10. Somehow this proves he actually won Nevada. > **[No, Trump did not win in Nevada. (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/technology/no-trump-did-not-win-in-nevada.html)** > > President Trump claimed that there was “large scale voter discrepancy” in Clark County, Nev. A review of votes there showed the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6661 "2020-11-18T22:37:22Z")
anything and everything to confuse the voting public - more fuel to fire the argument between the "you stole it " crowd and everyone else. Its exceedingly difficult to discuss/argue these things when the ‘President’ is making the bogus claims. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6662 "2020-11-18T23:04:53Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > This describes the tactics of Hitler of course. The text of this statement comes from a psychological analysis of Hitler made by the U. S. Office of Strategic Services during the war. From the [Wikipedia page on “Big Lie”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie): That’s where I got it from. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6663 "2020-11-18T23:08:21Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > That’s where I got it from. 😊 Googling for pieces of that quote, I found umpteen cites that quoted the same. I chose to quote the Wiki page because I immediately found the original source cited there. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6664 "2020-11-19T00:18:01Z")
In a proposal to the court, the lawyers for the Trump campaign in one of the Pennsylvania lawsuits, suggested that they could obtain and count all or part of the Pennsylvania mail ballot envelopes, then let the judge know if he should declare them the winner. [https://t.co/3VI5uG26Gb](https://t.co/3VI5uG26Gb) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6665 "2020-11-19T00:31:46Z")
Some ridicule Rudy’s appearance in court (he didn’t know what “opacity” or “strict scrutiny” meant.) But Hannity and others on the right praised him as brilliant. > **[‘Normal’ Scrutiny: Rudy Giuliani Failed in Federal Court | Law & Crime](https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/when-applying-normal-scrutiny-rudy-giulianis-court-appearance-was-a-total-flop/)** > > Rudy Giuliani flubbed basic issues of law, fact, and the English language during his federal court appearance on Tuesday. President Donald Trump's usual boosters loved his performance. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6666 "2020-11-19T01:11:04Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In a proposal to the court, the lawyers for the Trump campaign in one of the Pennsylvania lawsuits, suggested that they could obtain and count all or part of the Pennsylvania mail ballot envelopes, then let the judge know if he should declare them the winner But they will use ‘statistical expert analysis’, so you know their findings will be accurate. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6667 "2020-11-19T01:42:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > But Hannity and others on the right praised him as brilliant. - The perception of intelligence is relative. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6668 "2020-11-19T01:49:19Z")
I looked Hannity’s quote, he said that he heard from more than a few people that Rudy was brilliant. See, he’s just reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6669 "2020-11-19T02:19:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > But Hannity and others on the right praised him as brilliant. - > > The perception of intelligence is relative. I’ve been passing this earworm around all day today: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FCk5fbIOJkA/maxresdefault.jpg "Bunch O' Brains") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCk5fbIOJkA) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6670 "2020-11-19T02:26:50Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > But Hannity and others on the right praised him as brilliant. - > > The perception of intelligence is relative. “Many people are saying” – the new standard of jurisprudence. Also, “more than a few people” = more than two. In this case, I’m guessing three people thought Rudy was “brilliant”: Trump, Rudy, and Hannity looking in the mirror. I’ve always thought Hannity was the perfect image of a crooked used car salesman, and I suspect the only reason he didn’t pursue that profession was that he wasn’t bright enough. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6671 "2020-11-19T03:15:08Z")
Two MAGAts die and ascend to the Pearly Gates. God greets them and asks if they have any questions. One asks, “What was the real result of the 2020 election and who was behind the fraud?” God says, “Joe Biden won the electoral college 306 to 232, fair and square. There was no fraud.” The other MAGAt turns to the first one and says, “This goes even higher up than we thought.” (notwithstanding the dubious idea of MAGAts going to heaven) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6672 "2020-11-19T03:23:29Z")
LOL, ok, this is the first MAGA joke that has made me laugh out loud!! Thank you!! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6673 "2020-11-19T05:29:55Z")
Individual 1 campaign proposes in court that the judge rule that the Republican controlled state legislature choose the Pennsylvania electors. [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-18/trump-campaign-files-revised-suit-in-pennsylvania-election-case](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-18/trump-campaign-files-revised-suit-in-pennsylvania-election-case) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6674 "2020-11-19T05:40:00Z")
In still more potential corruption, we have the following: > **[Exclusive: U.S. investigators were told to take 'no further action' on...](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-barr-caterpillar-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-investigators-were-told-to-take-no-further-action-on-caterpillar-ex-client-of-barr-idUSKBN27Y2PO)** > > Before William Barr became President Donald Trump’s choice to lead the U.S. Department of Justice, he represented Caterpillar Inc, a Fortune 100 company, in a federal criminal investigation by the department. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6675 "2020-11-19T12:47:37Z")
Curious to know if there might exist any paper trail that would implicate AG Barr communicating with his old client while in his new role. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6676 "2020-11-19T12:49:44Z")
Meanwhile, Wayne County supervisors first blocked certification, then certified, and now we to rescind their vote. > **[GOP Wayne County Board of Canvassers members trying to rescind vote...](https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/11/19/two-wayne-county-election-board-members-trying-to-rescind-vote-certification/)** > > According to the New York Times, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann signed affidavits in an effort to rescind their “yes” votes Wednesday evening. I predict that blocking certification will become a thing, if not now in 2020, certainly in races going forward. Just like Republicans use the Courts to try and overturn elections and throw out votes, they will now uses the certification process. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6677 "2020-11-19T12:49:50Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Trump is the Mule that Isaac Asimov warned us about. No way! Trump couldn’t play a Visi-Sonor if his life depended on nit! ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6678 "2020-11-19T13:03:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Atlanta’s Democratic Mayor [Keisha Lance Bottoms](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/keisha-lance-bottoms) on Wednesday ripped President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) over his willingness to throw fellow [Republicans](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/republican-party) under the bus when they don’t agree 100% with his agenda. > > “He will eat his own children, I’m sure, if he found it prudent,” Bottoms told [CNN](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/cnn) anchor [Anderson Cooper](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/anderson-cooper). Only if he could put ketchup on them. > **[Atlanta Mayor: Trump Would ‘Eat His Own Children’ If He Found It Prudent](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/atlanta-mayor-keisha-lance-bottoms-donald-trump-gop_n_5fb627ffc5b664958c7db78d)** > > Keisha Lance Bottoms hopes Georgia voters will be "disgusted" by the president's post-election behavior when it comes to the runoffs. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/6679 "2020-11-19T14:09:26Z")
Maybe it’s the lawyer in me, but I truly enjoyed the un-preparedness, the floundering, and the making a damn fool of himself that was Guiliani arguing in federal court. From not understanding levels of scrutiny (he responded with “The normal one”) to the sheer inanity of asking a court to throw out 6.8 million votes due to 2 allegations of not being allowed to vote, it was truly a dark comedy of errors. I really hope he’s getting paid the $20,000 a day from the Trump campaign for that kind of comedy gold. [Guiliani’s greatest hits](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/here-are-7-of-the-most-ridiculous-moments-in-rudy-giulianis-performance-in-trumps-election-case/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=332) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083.md?page=334)